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Neutral not bonded to ground??

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YungSparky

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I'm a 1st year apprentice. Working on a job, out of curiosity I tested for continuity between neutral and ground on some branch circuit, and found that there was none. My understanding was that neutral was always bonded to ground at the main panel. I asked my foreman and he said something about why it wasn't necessary that I didn't understand. Can anyone help me understand what was going on? Thanks.
 
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YungSparky

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Joe.B said:
How did you test for continuity?
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In a junction box, between a) the neutral wire and the box/conduit and b) between the neutral wire and the grounding conductor.
I'm thinking maybe the circuit hadn't been landing in the panel yet, and he didn't understand my question?
 
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acin

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YungSparky said:
I'm a 1st year apprentice. Working on a job, out of curiosity I tested for continuity between neutral and ground on some branch circuit, and found that there was none. My understanding was that neutral was always bonded to ground at the main panel. I asked my foreman and he said something about why it wasn't necessary that I didn't understand. Can anyone help me understand what was going on? Thanks.
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a prefect time to learn, ask him again
 
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ramsy

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acin said:
a prefect time to learn, ask him again
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Disconnects can open the neutral if all ungrounded conductors are also opened.

GFCI safety devices can also open the neutral when tripped.

Impedance grounded systems may not register continuity when using a high-impedance VOM.
 
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Strathead

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ramsy said:
Disconnects can open the neutral if all ungrounded conductors are also opened.

GFCI safety devices can also open the neutral when tripped.

Impedance grounded systems may not register continuity when using a high-impedance VOM.
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1st year apprentice, probably should try not to confuse or overload him.
 
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Strathead

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YungSparky said:
That's a scary thought!
Maybe the circuit hadn't been landed in the panel yet, I'm not sure.
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Pretty bad answer from your journeyman. I would think if not being hooked up was the reason, then you would have understood that answer, so I question that. Is there anyone else on your crew that can answer? Not being landed is a good thought for a first year apprentice though. In fact, when I am troubleshooting a receptacle that has no power, one of the first things I do is check neutral to ground, because, if there is no continuity, it is a good chance I am looking for a completely disconnected, circuit, whether cut through or not hooked up at all.
 
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YungSparky

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Ok, thank you for the replies everyone.
I went around and tested to today and...sure enough all the neutrals are grounded.
I'm pretty sure the one I was testing in the first place just hadn't been landed yet.
When I asked my foreman why the neutral wasn't grounded, I think he thought I meant *grounded inside the box* (as opposed to bonded at the panel).
Sorry for such a dumb question and to waste everyone's time. 😬
 
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