New Generator Requirements for Florida

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Florida just passed house bill 7121 requiring an alternate power sorce for elevators, common area lighting and Fire Alarm Panels for facilities over 75ft in height. The bill REQUIRES the installation to be per Art. 700.
Many of the high rises as well as the AHJ are asking for genset be sized for both the required loads as well as their Fire Pumps. And if so,fire pumps, unless required by the AHJ would fall under Art. 702.
Now, fortunatly 700,701 and 702 loads are permitted to be supplied concurrently from the same alternate power sorce: thus the sizing of one adequte generator (sized per what ever article is mandatory and it's required loads) is suficient.
DO I believe in the Art. 700 requirments to be justified: NO..
Why: the tapping of unfused utility power conductors that are required.
For a stand alone fire pump perhaps I can concure.
Now, we are required by Fla law to have a Xfer switch's normal power terminations not be protected by a OCD per statue.
Yes, Art. 700 is adiment in identifying and labeling equipment for this purpose for maintenance personal, however, in my 30 yrs +, most facility maintenance personal are general maintenance personal that unfortunatly are not qualified nor educated to this degree to understand that there is still harmfull current available even when they turn off the facilities main disconnect.
 
Design Electric,

If you would like to send me a PM, I will be happy to give you some guidance on this issue. I have been actively involved with certain aspects of this bill and its implementation here in Florida.
 
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Jeff:

I forwarded your request to Edgar Nazario. He is the Building Official. Hid tele number is 363-9277



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From: jeff curtis [mailto:jeff@designelectric.org]
Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 4:03 PM
To: Bill Palmer
Subject: Emergency Standby By generator Requirements



Bill,

I am curious of the City?s requirements for emergency standby generators for high rise condo?s.

What are the city?s requirements in generator sizing in regards to elevators and fire pumps? Does the generator need to be sized to handle the elevator AND fire pump electrical loads concurrently (as well as select lighting loads requested by customer).

We are providing a proposal for the ? Beau Monde? Condo?s on Gulf Blvd.

The customer has an existing 80KW Genset which has been left unconnected. Customer wishes to have his elevator, fire pump and select lighting loads connected to the emergency system?with the option of shedding the lighting and elevator loads when the fire pump is needed in emergency mode( existing Genset can not handle all loads).

Thank you in advance.



Jeffrey A. Curtis

President

Design Electric Co.

Superior Power Systems

727-388-4342

727-491-3942 Fx.
 
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Ernie,

We are currently putting together a proposal for Beau Monde Condos? @ 4950 Gulf Blvd. For an emergency standby generator to operate their elevators, corridor lighting and Fire alarm Control Panel pursuant to the new Florida Bill 7121.

Although State and County regulations do not require fire pumps to have an emergency generator back up source, does the City of St. Pete. Beach?

This particular customer wishes to have his fire pump on his emergency generator, however the existing generator is not large enough to handle the required loads per the new Fl Bill 7121 AND the Fire Pump concurrently.

If your city does not require the Fire Pump be on emergency back up, then this customer still can put his fire pump on the existing generator, however he would have to shed the other legally required loads in order to operate the fire pump.

Article 700 of the NEC permits the connections of emergency loads, legally required loads as well as optional loads to be served by one alternate power source (ART.700.5(B)), however load shedding must be in sequence with Emergency Loads always on.

If your city legally requires the fire pump have an alternate power source, am I correct in assuming it would be classified as a NEC ART 701 (legally required), rather than ART 700 (Emergency)? If so, ART 701 loads can be ?shed? in this customers existing application.

Now, if a hurricane was to strike your city, it would only seem logical requiring Fire Pumps to be required to have an alternate power source as well as the newly required loads mandated by Fl Bill 7121 and generators being sized to handle the loads concurrently.

Since we are anticipating installing many emergency generators in your area very soon, I am trying to procure as much information in this regard ASAP, and before we begin our first installation in your city under the newly mandated state requirements.

Thank you in advance.



Jeffrey A. Curtis

President

Design Electric Co.

727-388-4342

727-491-3942 Fx.
 
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