New NY State codes effective Oct. 3rd, 07

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The 2007 ICC/NYS codes have been adopted by the Codes Council and will become effective October 3rd. From October 3rd to December 31, there will be a transitional period in which design professionals can apply for permits based on either the existing (2003) codes or the new codes (07).
Our present family of codes all reference the 1999 edition of the NEC. As of October 3rd transitional period and at the start of the new year (Jan 1, 08) the Residential Code of NYS (1 and 2- family dwellings and townhouses) will be based on the 2002 NEC and all other buildings will be based on the 2005.
Talk about multiple layers of confusion, the AFCI rules for 1&2 family dwellings will be governed by 210.12 "entire" circuit, whereas the apartments in multiple dwellings (2005 NEC) will have the exception(s) apply to 210.12.
I live in a world where there are actually 3 electrical codes in effect: The stand-alone electrical code contained within the RCNYS; the 2002 NEC, and the 2005 NEC. :confused: :mad: Thank goodness I get my paycheck every two weeks.....:grin:
 
Code cycles are challenging logic all day long. By the time the industry has had their input (manufacturer's rep's staff nearly every electrical code panel on the planet), there's little time left for logic and so the whole focus directs to implementation. Arc faults are a great contemporary example. :smile:
 
Here is the email the state sent out to those on the email list.




We have just received formal confirmation that Notices of Adoption for the
Uniform Code and Energy Code updates will be published in the October 3,
2007 edition of the State Register. This finally locks our transition
period and effective dates into place according to the following schedule:



Notice of Adoption to be published in the October 3, 2007 edition of State
Register.

Adoption of the 2007 Codes of New York State. Update to the Uniform Fire
Prevention and Building Code (Uniform Code) and State Energy Conservation
Construction Code.



Transition period for Uniform Code is October 3, 2007 to December 31, 2007.

Uniform Code will become effective on January 1, 2008.

Energy Code has no transition period, effective January 1, 2008.



Specific Titles:

Existing Building Code of New York State - 2007 Edition (This is
a NEW code for NYS)

Building Code of New York State - 2007 Edition

Residential Code of New York State - 2007 Edition

Fire Code of New York State - 2007 Edition

Property Maintenance Code of New York State - 2007 Edition

Plumbing Code of New York State - 2007 Edition

Mechanical Code of New York State - 2007 Edition

Fuel Gas Code of New York State - 2007 Edition

Energy Conservation Construction Code of New York State - 2007
Edition



? Electronic versions will be available from ICC in October, 2007.

? For the purpose of determining which version of the code applies
to building construction projects, municipalities should use the date that
the application was filed for a permit, not the start of construction.

? During the transition period, regulated parties will have the
option of using either the current code provisions in their entirety or the
newly adopted provisions in their entirety for representing compliance with
the Uniform Code (can't "mix and match provisions of Uniform Code, no
transition for Energy Code).

? FYI, a special edition of Codes Division's "Building News" will be
sent to all e-mail subscribers later today, announcing our adoption
schedule.


New York State Department of State

Division of Code Enforcement and Administration

41 State Street, Suite 1130

Albany, NY 12231

 
jamesguy10 said:
Im starting to get sick of the 99 code.

We are so far behind here its rediculous
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Oddly enough, there are times when I'd love to go back to the 99. Ahhhh....the pre-AFCI days. :D

I'm just not liking the new rules in the NEC no matter how much potential they have to make us all money. Tamper proof receptacles? No big deal. Expanding AFCI use? Not cool at all....
 
peter d said:
Oddly enough, there are times when I'd love to go back to the 99. Ahhhh....the pre-AFCI days. :D

I'm just not liking the new rules in the NEC no matter how much potential they have to make us all money. Tamper proof receptacles? No big deal. Expanding AFCI use? Not cool at all....
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I dont like to fight homeowners about needing tamper proofs and afci's, or the "lets just do it without a permit", but im sick of the inspectors telling me im nuts for "overdoing" things(doing things to the 05 that is)
 
jamesguy10 said:
I dont like to fight homeowners about needing tamper proofs and afci's, or the "lets just do it without a permit", but im sick of the inspectors telling me im nuts for "overdoing" things(doing things to the 05 that is)
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There's certainly a difference in doing more than the basic minimum required and going overboard. It's unfortunate that your inspector(s) don't make this distinction. :confused: :smile:
 
jamesguy10 said:
........ but im sick of the inspectors telling me im nuts for "overdoing" things(doing things to the 05 that is)
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I get that occasionally, especially from one of the 3rd party inspectors who works the rural area southwest of here. Not that it holds up the inspection, he's usually happy to see better wiring, he just can't believe anyone out that way would ask for and pay for things to be done using modern codes. ;)
 
wbalsam1 said:
There's certainly a difference in doing more than the basic minimum required and going overboard. It's unfortunate that your inspector(s) don't make this distinction. :confused: :smile:
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They think we should take advantage of being on the 99 code
 
jamesguy10 said:
They think we should take advantage of being on the 99 code
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I get what you're saying. And, in a way, I can understand the reasoning behind this logic....but there's a part of me that's happy to finally move up to a code somewhat more in tune with the latest methodologies and technologies....and the continued use of the '99 seems to have the effect of standing on the brakes of progress. I'm just complaining about the "code-cycling" process that enacts legislation with two editions of NFPA-70 in effect at the same time....:confused: :grin: ......
 
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