Nit Picky on 590 temporary installations

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Ok, i guess i was bored and decided to read up on 590 NEC 2008 again. :)

Ive been on many construction/remodle sites for Tenant improvement, Since alot of times we have put in the lighting (the new light fixtures for the job) and taken down our string lights, it looks like we are in a 'technical' violation of this 590 Articles since these new light fixtures that we installed are being used for 'temporary' lighting toward the end of the job.

Also since home owners use vacuum cleaners in their house for 'temp' power to clean then they need gfci protection.

Also it appears some of you residential guys that go into these old homes that still just have the old knob and tube wireing and have only 2 wire receptacles that has no egc and you even use your gfci cord and 2prong to 3 prong adapter you would still be in violation of 590 because the house receptacle does not have a egc. ;) 590.4 (D)
 
brother said:
Since alot of times we have put in the lighting (the new light fixtures for the job) and taken down our string lights, it looks like we are in a 'technical' violation of this 590 Articles since these new light fixtures that we installed are being used for 'temporary' lighting toward the end of the job.
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There is nothing temporary about the 'new light fixtures' and they would not be under 590. :smile:
 
brother said:
Ok so what about the rest of my examples. ;)
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This one

Also since home owners use vacuum cleaners in their house for 'temp' power to clean then they need gfci protection.
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If we forget the homeowners don't read the NEC, 590.6 could be interpreted as requiring a GFCI for that if you consider vacuuming 'maintenance'. :smile:

Also it appears some of you residential guys that go into these old homes that still just have the old knob and tube wireing and have only 2 wire receptacles that has no egc and you even use your gfci cord and 2prong to 3 prong adapter you would still be in violation of 590 because the house receptacle does not have a egc. 590.4 (D)
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That is correct, and it is the same if a home owner plugs a 3 wire appliance into a two wire supplied receptacle. See 250.114. :smile:
 
brother said:
Well i was told that just because you do not READ the NEC , doent mean that you are not subject to the NEC. ;) ignorance of the law (code) is no excuse. :smile:
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Well there is some truth there but until inspectors are given the right to kick down homeowners doors to make sure they did not violate 210.21(B)(2) I think we are safe to ignore 590.6 for HO vacuums. :smile:
 
iwire said:
Well there is some truth there but until inspectors are given the right to kick down homeowners doors to make sure they did not violate 210.21(B)(2) I think we are safe to ignore 590.6 for HO vacuums. :smile:
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What if 'Homeland Security' bust in and catch you vacuuming with a gfci?? Thats just another charge they can throw at ya! They dont need a warrant either.
 
iwire said:
until inspectors are given the right to kick down homeowners doors to make sure they did not violate
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ken (480 sparky) Awhile back, posted a picture of a super hero, dressed in black, toting a Dewalt and bearing a Mike Holt Forumer logo of sorts.....I could not find it, but I can just see him kicking down a door and saying......."Rest assure folks"...."Mike Holt Forum to the rescue":grin:
 
brother said:
What if 'Homeland Security' bust in and catch you vacuuming with a gfci??
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I knew GFCI's sucked, but I didn't realize they were on par with Electrolux.
 
dcspector said:
ken (480 sparky) Awhile back, posted a picture of a super hero, dressed in black, toting a Dewalt and bearing a Mike Holt Forumer logo of sorts.....I could not find it, but I can just see him kicking down a door and saying......."Rest assure folks"...."Mike Holt Forum to the rescue":grin:
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