jmellc
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No End to Junk
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LarryFine
Master Electrician Electric Contractor Richmond VA
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It looks like a box was removed.
Maybe they added a wire and the box was too small, so to avoid that problem they removed the box.
Looks like no wirenuts, I wonder how good the connections are?
Fred B
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Seen this before, soldered connections. Connections probably pretty good but no ground. Seen it in ceiling cavity for lighting runs, not legal found this before, box didn't have enough KOs.
It was a long time ago, but as I recall they weren't soldered. I added some ungrounded GFCI receptacles in my kid's room and an AFCI breaker. Thankfully, the AFCI didn't trip right off. This is after I cleaned it up:
Here was the gas furnace flue pipe...had to fix that too:
A lot of these college rentals are really hacked up. It is a wonder there aren't more tragedies.
ptonsparky
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Picked up my granddaughter a few years ago to move her back home. Walked into where she was living and new something was wrong immediately. The vent from the furnace had been removed entirely. We found it near by and replaced it. She ha lived there several months.
ptonsparky
Tom
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How does spell check decide when it wants to work?
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- Retired Electrical Contractor
jmellc
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I don’t know but that & overlays have messed me up more than they have helped me. I try to check everything before posting but miss a lot. That’s 1 of the few negative issues about this forum. Virtually no time to edit mistakes.
ptonsparky
Tom
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It does look good, for a box that is too small.
Don’t we have something like 20 minutes?
I have to edit constantly and seldom run out of time.
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- Retired Electrical Contractor
I thought it was 4" sq. x 2 1/8" deep. Even if the conductors are #12 that should be good
ptonsparky
Tom
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15 #12s?
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- Chapel Hill, NC
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- Retired Electrical Contractor
I counted 12 -#12 - if they are #12 wire. More likely 14 gauge in a residence
jmellc
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I do a lot at night when I’m tired, then don’t see the errors until past time. My bad really, I should be more attentive. My school teacher parents roll over in their graves.
Don’t we have something like 20 minutes?
I have to edit constantly and seldom run out of time.
LarryFine
Master Electrician Electric Contractor Richmond VA
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- Henrico County, VA
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- Electrical Contractor
It's a 4-11/16" box. Note the cover screws are away from the corners.
synchro
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- EE
I hope that's really a hot air duct and not a flue pipe to exhaust the combustion gasses.
It was definitely the flue pipe from the gas furnace...in the room right next to my kid's bedroom. You can see the double wall pipe B-vent pipe the dislodged piece is going in to.
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