Non dwelling units countertop requirements

[shortcircuit1]

If you have a business center which has a counter top space including dishwasher and disposal.It also has a refrigerator.I was debating whether there are any requirements for counter top spaces in non dwelling units.Do i still have to follow 2 SABC rule for this?

 

[macmikeman]

GFI within 6 foot of sinks. That's it.

 

[Dennis Alwon]

If you have a business center which has a counter top space including dishwasher and disposal.It also has a refrigerator.I was debating whether there are any requirements for counter top spaces in non dwelling units.Do i still have to follow 2 SABC rule for this?

If you had permanent provisions for cooking then I would say you had a kitchen and would need all the receptacles to be on gfci

 

[shortcircuit1]

If you had permanent provisions for cooking then I would say you had a kitchen and would need all the receptacles to be on gfci

I dont think having a dishwasher and disposal can be considered as permanent provisions for cooking.In that case i dont need to provide two SABC's.Two dedicated ckts for dishwasher and disposal should do the job.

 

[Dennis Alwon]

I dont think having a dishwasher and disposal can be considered as permanent provisions for cooking.In that case i dont need to provide two SABC's.Two dedicated ckts for dishwasher and disposal should do the job.

I didn't say that... I said IF you had....

BTW, two small appliance branch circuit's is only required for residences

 

[charlie b]

I agree that the two SABCs are not needed. I don't know New York rules. But the ability to wash utensils is enough for WA to call it a kitchen. That would require GFCI for any receptacle in the area. How you put a boundary on that "area" is a bit trickier.

 

[petersonra]

If you have a business center which has a counter top space including dishwasher and disposal.It also has a refrigerator.I was debating whether there are any requirements for counter top spaces in non dwelling units.Do i still have to follow 2 SABC rule for this?

I think I'd be inclined to just add a couple 20 A circuits as they will probably be needed.

I think I would also make them GFCI.

They can afford the few extra bucks.

 

[shortcircuit1]

I agree that the two SABCs are not needed. I don't know New York rules. But the ability to wash utensils is enough for WA to call it a kitchen. That would require GFCI for any receptacle in the area. How you put a boundary on that "area" is a bit trickier.

What if someone wants to put a countertop microwave or a toaster?

 

[roger]

What if someone wants to put a countertop microwave or a toaster?

Well most likely they would not be hardwired so they wouldn't be considered "permanent" and on another note, "what ifs" are not a concern, you can not control what happens after you're gone.

Roger

 

[shortcircuit1]

Well most likely they would not be hardwired so they wouldn't be considered "permanent" and on another note, "what ifs" are not a concern, you can not control what happens after you're gone.

Roger

I agree but if you move in to a space and you have this counter top space with no receptacles then people tend to start using extension cords from the nearest outlets.I would put at least one cause now a days everyone has a coffeemaker or microwave.

 

[Buck Parrish]

I might would ask them where the Microwave is going to be, It may be an extra charge, of course.

 

[sameguy]

I might would ask them where the Microwave is going to be, It may be an extra charge, of course.

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