OCPD SIZE

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frank

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IF YOU RUN 15 #12 THHN IN A 3/4" E.M.T. CONDUIT AND THE BIGGEST LOAD ON ANY WIRE IS 10 AMPS CAN I USE 20 AMP BREAKERS FOR THESE WIRES.THE WIRES RUN TO 15 AMP RECEPTACLES. IN ACCORDANCE TO THE CODE.
 

tom baker

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Re: OCPD SIZE

For derating, ampacity of 12 THHN is 30 amps, but after derating can exceed 20 amps, but see section 240.3
Derating is given in Table 310-15(b)(a). If there were 15 current carrying conductors you would derate 50%. But are all the conductors current carrying? Typically grounded conductors don't count, unless for harmonic loads.
The amount of current does not matter, the circuit ampacity is determined by the OCPD.
 

russ

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Re: OCPD SIZE

240.3(B) restricts you from useing the next higher standard overcurrent device for multioutlet branch circuits.

You can use the 90degree column for thhn derating, 50% of 30amps = 15.

Russ

[ March 26, 2003, 12:21 AM: Message edited by: russ ]
 

dereckbc

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Re: OCPD SIZE

Frank, I am curious how your circuits are configured. By that I mean are there 5 circuits with L-N-G, or what? You only have to count the current carrying conductors. For example if you are supplying from a 208Y/120 you would not be required to count the neutral.

Otherwise if you have 15 current carrying conductors in a conduit with 20-amp breakers you are going to have to use 10 AWG or use two seperate conduits.
 
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