OK, Here is where i am clueless

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zog

zog

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I am a HV guy, LV is a whole different world, so here is where I get to look stupid.

I put a new C-fan in today in my new house and there was green, white, and a red wire with about 4" of a black wire spliced onto the end> What is up with that? Isnt that whole hot lead supposed to be black? They use the wrong color and think it would be made right with the splice? Or dosent it really matter?
 
I dont know, the wiring I am talking about is my house wiring, not on the fan. I mean I figured it out, thing works great, but I found that splice to be curious.
 
It really does not matter what color they use for the ungrounded conductor.

Many times you will have one white, one green and two other colors, one for the fan one for a light kit that may or may not be used.

I bet they add the black to match the instructions.
 
zog said:
I am a HV guy, LV is a whole different world, so here is where I get to look stupid.

I put a new C-fan in today in my new house and there was green, white, and a red wire with about 4" of a black wire spliced onto the end> What is up with that? Isnt that whole hot lead supposed to be black? They use the wrong color and think it would be made right with the splice? Or dosent it really matter?
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Is it factory done or is it a return that they sold again.

Either way it doesn't matter what color the lead is but generally there is a green black, red and white wire unless this has a built in remote control.
 
zog said:
I am a HV guy, LV is a whole different world, so here is where I get to look stupid.
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So are you qualified? :D

We may have to close this thread as we can not help DIYs. ;)

There better be LOTO at your disconnecting means. :D
 
iwire said:
So are you qualified? :D

We may have to close this thread as we can not help DIYs. ;)

There better be LOTO at your disconnecting means. :D
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Fair question, I would say yes to the qualified (By OSHA and 70E Definitions), I did actually lock it out and do a L-D-L test.
 
zog said:
I dont know, the wiring I am talking about is my house wiring, not on the fan. I mean I figured it out, thing works great, but I found that splice to be curious.
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Perhaps the power was run to your fan box first, then they ran 3 wire (black, red, white) between there and the switch box: blk/hot, wht/neutral, red/switch leg.

Were there other spliced wires in the box: blk w/o pigtail and white w/pigtail?
 
Smart $ said:
Perhaps the power was run to your fan box first, then they ran 3 wire (black, red, white) between there and the switch box: blk/hot, wht/neutral, red/switch leg.

Were there other spliced wires in the box: blk w/o pigtail and white w/pigtail?
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Actually there was another black for a light kit that I didnt need, maybe thats why they used red, to diferienate between the 2 hots. Y'all think that is it? Then splice a black lead on the end so morons like me know to hook that up to the blach lead on my fan, I think I just answered my own question.
 
zog said:
Actually there was another black for a light kit that I didnt need, maybe thats why they used red, to diferienate between the 2 hots. Y'all think that is it? Then splice a black lead on the end so morons like me know to hook that up to the blach lead on my fan, I think I just answered my own question.
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Actually, what you probably have is a cable with a black, a red, and a white, and someone added a pigtail to the red to make it longer, and it just happened to be black.

Normally, it's ceiling white to fan white, ceiling black to fan black, and ceiling red to fan blue (or black w/stripe). Don't forget all bares and greens go together, of course.
 
LarryFine said:
Actually, what you probably have is a cable with a black, a red, and a white, and someone added a pigtail to the red to make it longer, and it just happened to be black.

Normally, it's ceiling white to fan white, ceiling black to fan black, and ceiling red to fan blue (or black w/stripe). Don't forget all bares and greens go together, of course.
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Right I got that, the pigtail wasnt needed for length, we are only talking a few inches, it looked like it was to mark the color change.

What my question meant to ask was is the colors used for hot and nuetral standard, or required in the NEC to be Black and White?
 
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