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140922-2219 EDT

Back in the early 60s I was consulting with a company in the liquid level business. Usable transistors and some other semiconductor devices had only been around for a few years. SCRs were just on the scene. This company wanted a proportional capacitance gage for liquid level level measurement.

My task was to design and develop this product. Resulted in one patent and was based on knowledge gained in M. B. Stout's instrumentation class.

This gage had no dc regulated power supply, but yet it could operate over an AC supply voltage range of 90 to 140 V with no shift in the zero point and less than 1% in full scale. Pulled it out today and checked that it operated. It does. There has never been a component replaced in the unit. There are electrolytic capacitors and all circuitry is solid state. Uses a taut band meter. Integrated circuits did not commercially exist.

The basic circuit design was such that theoretically the output was perfectly linear with capacitance change. All the selector switches were 50 millionths gold over nickel. All solder was eutectic tin-lead. I still do not use lead free solder.

Today when I was doing experiments on the inductive coupling between adjacent wires I tried a Kill-A-Watt that was only 2 years old and its display only half worked and calibration was possibly off by a moderate amount. Once in a while I could get the display to work. Obviously I used a different Kill-A-Watt for the tests. Reliable devices can be made today, but many are not. And quality made electrolytic capacitors can provide good life.

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140922-2219 EDT

Back in the early 60s I was consulting with a company in the liquid level business. Usable transistors and some other semiconductor devices had only been around for a few years. SCRs were just on the scene. This company wanted a proportional capacitance gage for liquid level level measurement.

My task was to design and develop this product. Resulted in one patent and was based on knowledge gained in M. B. Stout's instrumentation class.

This gage had no dc regulated power supply, but yet it could operate over an AC supply voltage range of 90 to 140 V with no shift in the zero point and less than 1% in full scale. Pulled it out today and checked that it operated. It does. There has never been a component replaced in the unit. There are electrolytic capacitors and all circuitry is solid state. Uses a taut band meter. Integrated circuits did not commercially exist.

The basic circuit design was such that theoretically the output was perfectly linear with capacitance change. All the selector switches were 50 millionths gold over nickel. All solder was eutectic tin-lead. I still do not use lead free solder.

Today when I was doing experiments on the inductive coupling between adjacent wires I tried a Kill-A-Watt that was only 2 years old and its display only half worked and calibration was possibly off by a moderate amount. Once in a while I could get the display to work. Obviously I used a different Kill-A-Watt for the tests. Reliable devices can be made today, but many are not. And quality made electrolytic capacitors can provide good life.

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Are you saying new stuff is junk and poorly made?
 
140922-2340 EDT

Some is. But we know much more about materials and reliability than 50 years ago. Extremely good and reliable equipment can and is being made today.

But I think in the near term that lead free products may be a reliability problem. Then there is the problem of manufacturers that cut too many corners to reduce cost.

Today automobiles last longer, are more complex, and relatively have fewer problems than 50 years ago.

Sometime in the 1950s electrolytic capacitors became much more reliable than in the 30s and 40s.

A good article on electrolytic capacitors is ---
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrolytic_capacitor

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