I accept the claim that NEC does not require NRTL listing of industrial control panels which fall under NEC 409. There may be some AHJs, cities, and states who do require listing.
However, if OSHA applies (such as at a workplace), then it appears that all electrical equipment that can be listed, must be listed.
https://www.osha.gov/dts/otpca/nrtl/prodcatg.html
1910.303(a) - The conductors and equipment required or permitted by this subpart shall be acceptable only if approved, as defined in Sec. 1910.399.
https://www.osha.gov/laws-regs/regulations/standardnumber/1910/1910.399
Acceptable. An installation or equipment is acceptable to the Assistant Secretary of Labor, and approved within the meaning of this Subpart S:
(1) If it is accepted, or certified, or listed, or labeled, or otherwise determined to be safe by a nationally recognized testing laboratory recognized pursuant to § 1910.7; or
(2) With respect to an installation or equipment of a kind that no nationally recognized testing laboratory accepts, certifies, lists, labels, or determines to be safe, if it is inspected or tested by another Federal agency, or by a State, municipal, or other local authority responsible for enforcing occupational safety provisions of the National Electrical Code, and found in compliance with the provisions of the National Electrical Code as applied in this subpart; or
(3) With respect to custom-made equipment or related installations that are designed, fabricated for, and intended for use by a particular customer, if it is determined to be safe for its intended use by its manufacturer on the basis of test data which the employer keeps and makes available for inspection to the Assistant Secretary and his authorized representatives.
Approved. Acceptable to the authority enforcing this subpart. The authority enforcing this subpart is the Assistant Secretary of Labor for Occupational Safety and Health. The definition of "acceptable" indicates what is acceptable to the Assistant Secretary of Labor, and therefore approved within the meaning of this subpart.
This would appear to be a blanket requirement for all industrial control panels at a workplace to be built by a UL 508A panel shop.
Or is it okay as far as OSHA to not have the UL 508A, as long as all components inside are UL listed (as opposed to UL Recognized)?
I have in mind everything from a simple panel containing a building automation system or a temperature data logging system (only control components, no power), to panels controlling motors (containing power and controls).
I would like to advise my client as to whether he needs to spend the money to get a UL 508A panel shop to build a panel, rather than him building it in house, in order to be in compliance with OSHA. I don't want to recommend something that is unnecessary.
However, if OSHA applies (such as at a workplace), then it appears that all electrical equipment that can be listed, must be listed.
https://www.osha.gov/dts/otpca/nrtl/prodcatg.html
1910.303(a) - The conductors and equipment required or permitted by this subpart shall be acceptable only if approved, as defined in Sec. 1910.399.
https://www.osha.gov/laws-regs/regulations/standardnumber/1910/1910.399
Acceptable. An installation or equipment is acceptable to the Assistant Secretary of Labor, and approved within the meaning of this Subpart S:
(1) If it is accepted, or certified, or listed, or labeled, or otherwise determined to be safe by a nationally recognized testing laboratory recognized pursuant to § 1910.7; or
(2) With respect to an installation or equipment of a kind that no nationally recognized testing laboratory accepts, certifies, lists, labels, or determines to be safe, if it is inspected or tested by another Federal agency, or by a State, municipal, or other local authority responsible for enforcing occupational safety provisions of the National Electrical Code, and found in compliance with the provisions of the National Electrical Code as applied in this subpart; or
(3) With respect to custom-made equipment or related installations that are designed, fabricated for, and intended for use by a particular customer, if it is determined to be safe for its intended use by its manufacturer on the basis of test data which the employer keeps and makes available for inspection to the Assistant Secretary and his authorized representatives.
Approved. Acceptable to the authority enforcing this subpart. The authority enforcing this subpart is the Assistant Secretary of Labor for Occupational Safety and Health. The definition of "acceptable" indicates what is acceptable to the Assistant Secretary of Labor, and therefore approved within the meaning of this subpart.
This would appear to be a blanket requirement for all industrial control panels at a workplace to be built by a UL 508A panel shop.
Or is it okay as far as OSHA to not have the UL 508A, as long as all components inside are UL listed (as opposed to UL Recognized)?
I have in mind everything from a simple panel containing a building automation system or a temperature data logging system (only control components, no power), to panels controlling motors (containing power and controls).
I would like to advise my client as to whether he needs to spend the money to get a UL 508A panel shop to build a panel, rather than him building it in house, in order to be in compliance with OSHA. I don't want to recommend something that is unnecessary.