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jmsbrush

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This is for service residential electricians. What have been some instances, that have came up in the past, that was out of the norm to do when you were just going to do something simple.
Something that you didn't expect and maybe had to charge for or should have charged for.
For example: Someone didn't want to see conduit on the wall, so you had to cut the concrete to run a piece of conduit and then it needed to be patched.
 

hillbilly

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If I'm not sure that I can hide something, I will get the homeowner and describe what I plan to do...even show them what the exposed material will look like.

I let them make the decision whether or not to do the extra work required to hide it.....along with whether or not to spend the extra $$.

All of this up front.

If I already had it installed (which I avoid if I have this question), I suppose that I would explain that the work is done safely and in compliance with the electrical code, and to change it would cost more $$$.

Bets are off if it's a good customer that I don't want to lose.

Just my opinion
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Rewire

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We were going to move a panel from upstairs to downstairs the new location was right below the old panel on an outside wall looked fairly easy as we would use the old panel box as a junction and just drop lines down the wall. All looked well untill we cut the sheetrock out for the new panel and found 2 inch furring strips over what was the original log cabin.10 inch solid oak logs had to be cut out to recess the panel.
 

hillbilly

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We were going to move a panel from upstairs to downstairs the new location was right below the old panel on an outside wall looked fairly easy as we would use the old panel box as a junction and just drop lines down the wall. All looked well untill we cut the sheetrock out for the new panel and found 2 inch furring strips over what was the original log cabin.10 inch solid oak logs had to be cut out to recess the panel.

Time to break out the chain saw.:)

steve
 

iMuse97

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Chicagoland
We were going to move a panel from upstairs to downstairs the new location was right below the old panel on an outside wall looked fairly easy as we would use the old panel box as a junction and just drop lines down the wall. All looked well untill we cut the sheetrock out for the new panel and found 2 inch furring strips over what was the original log cabin.10 inch solid oak logs had to be cut out to recess the panel.

Apparently you don't encounter a lot of balloon log construction:grin:. It gets me every time. Seriously, around here I've always got to think ahead re: the solid brick walls or the block walls. I've never had the solid log wall problem but know of couple houses that are built that way.
 
This is for service residential electricians. What have been some instances, that have came up in the past, that was out of the norm to do when you were just going to do something simple.
Something that you didn't expect and maybe had to charge for or should have charged for.
For example: Someone didn't want to see conduit on the wall, so you had to cut the concrete to run a piece of conduit and then it needed to be patched.

If it wasn't clarified prior to signing or verbalizing the Contract, the Customer should pay for the extra work and material.

As always; in my opinion.
 

Sierrasparky

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USA
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Electrician ,contractor
Especially if the the customer knew and confessed that after the fact. Gotta charge. Unless it's obvious you made a mistake.
 

e57

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I have not done - but I have suggested it to every company I have ever worked for...

Create a pre-price check-list, detailing site condition and "apparent construction" with note of it in the contract as what the price is based upon.


e.g.
  • Interior walls - 2x4 - wood
  • Exterior walls - 2x6 - wood
  • Interior cielings - 2x8 - wood (Note: Dropped 16" in hall and bed's - accessible - Non-plenum)
  • Floors Wood over wood substrate (Note: No hydronic present)
This way if you get in there and go to the ceilings in the hall and it is a steel beam - you have recourse. And likewise, if you go to put in floor outlets and find hydronic heating.

The last time I brought this up my employer didn't notice the return air vent was open to the whole cieling in a high-rise.... Changing the wiring materials/methods.... And the GC was less than sympathetic.

But back to this in the OP:
so you had to cut the concrete to run a piece of conduit and then it needed to be patched.
Sounds like structural damage???? :roll: Don't get me wrong - I have done it too, but there are limits to liablity.
 
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