Outdoor Receptacles

[Greg38]

I was told by a GC that you can install NON GFI receptacles outdoors if they are at six feet or higher off the ground. Any truth to that?

 

[david luchini]

No. (The receptacle doesn't need to be GFI type if the breaker had GFI protection, but there is no 6' limit to GFI protection.)

 

[roger]

I was told by a GC that you can install NON GFI receptacles outdoors if they are at six feet or higher off the ground. Any truth to that?

See the exceptions to 210.8(A)(3) and 210.8(B)(4)

Roger

 

[Greg38]

See the exceptions to 210.8(A)(3) and 210.8(B)(4)

Roger

I have a grease collection unit that has a heat tape installed on the line. The unit is out doors and it is plugged into a gfi receptacle. the heat tape is tripping the gfi. If I install a regular receptacle with an in use cover at 6 ft. and lock the cover do you think that it is within the exceptions that the code book talks about?

 

[roger]

I have a grease collection unit that has a heat tape installed on the line. The unit is out doors and it is plugged into a gfi receptacle. the heat tape is tripping the gfi. If I install a regular receptacle with an in use cover at 6 ft. and lock the cover do you think that it is within the exceptions that the code book talks about?

Under the 2011 you still have 426.28 and 427.22 to contend with.

Roger

 

[augie47]

Under the 2011 you still have 426.28 and 427.22 to contend with.

Roger

Am I correct, that these sections reference ground-fault protection (GFP) as opposed to GFCI protection ?


If so, could the heat tape be hard-wired to a GFP protected circuit ?

Taking into account removing the plug would be altering the tape, if that were acceptable by the AHJ, could that be a solution (hard-wiredd to a GFP circuit or allowing the tape to be converted to a twist lok)
(A Breaker such as Square-D QPGFEP1015 would provide this)

 

[Gregg Harris]

I have a grease collection unit that has a heat tape installed on the line. The unit is out doors and it is plugged into a gfi receptacle. the heat tape is tripping the gfi. If I install a regular receptacle with an in use cover at 6 ft. and lock the cover do you think that it is within the exceptions that the code book talks about?

Depending on your application this may comply

427.22 Ground-Fault Protection of Equipment. See related UL Ground-fault protection of equipment shall be provided for electric heat tracing and heating panels. This requirement shall not apply in industrial establishments where there is alarm indication of ground faults and the following conditions apply:

(1)

Conditions of maintenance and supervision ensure that only qualified persons service the installed systems.

(2)

Continued circuit operation is necessary for safe operation of equipment or processes.

 

[roger]

Am I correct, that these sections reference ground-fault protection (GFP) as opposed to GFCI protection ?


If so, could the heat tape be hard-wired to a GFP protected circuit ?

Taking into account removing the plug would be altering the tape, if that were acceptable by the AHJ, could that be a solution (hard-wiredd to a GFP circuit or allowing the tape to be converted to a twist lok)
(A Breaker such as Square-D QPGFEP1015 would provide this)

That is correct Gus however, in my experience GFP protection is substantially more expensive than GFCI.


Roger