Outlet spacing commercial

[Doctor Electric]

I can't seem to find in what article of the code book that covers outlet spacing in a commercial setting as far as I know there isn't one it's per use per location....

 

[nickelec]

I'm pretty sure there is no requirement. I have done many commercial spaces for clients . Pretty much a "white box" with just a panel and a SVC outlet under the panel with a couple of porcelains.

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[augie47]

As far as receptacle outlets, I believe 210.73 is the only requirement.
"Outlets" in general might include service panel illumination (110.26)(D); 210.70(C) and 600.5

 

[kwired]

There is no section that goes into as much detail for non dwellings as 210.52 does for receptacle outlets in dwellings.

The "required outlets" for non dwellings is fairly limited in comparison to what is required in dwellings.

See 210 part III but skip over 210.52 as it only applies to dwellings (and is most of the content of part III). And right after it is Guest rooms, suites, dormitories - which mostly tell you to apply 210.52. 210.50 is mostly general information and not required outlet locations, and 210.70 is for lighting outlets and not receptacle outlets. This leaves you with 210.62, 210.63, and 210.64 to look at for required non dwelling receptacle outlets.

 

[Hertz Hound]

It looks like 210.71 is new for the 2017 code. It covers required outlets in meeting rooms.

 

[Doctor Electric]

I'm waiting on mine to come in the mail they were on back order there for a while the new 2017 that is

 

[Hertz Hound]

I will probably wait for the price to come down to get the 2017 book. Maybe till after 2020.

In the meantime I will use the ebook.......it shipped instantly!

[FONT=Arial !important]N 210.71 Meeting Rooms.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial !important](A)General.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial !important]Each meeting room of not more than 93 m² (1000 ft²) in other than dwelling units shall have outlets for nonlocking-type, 125-volt, 15- or 20-ampere receptacles. The outlets shall be installed in accordance with 210.71(B). Where a room or space is provided with movable partition(s), each room size shall be determined with the partition in the position that results in the smallest size meeting room.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial !important]Informational Note No. 1: For the purposes of this section, meeting rooms are typically designed or intended for the gathering of seated occupants for such purposes as conferences, deliberations, or similar purposes, where portable electronic equipment such as computers, projectors, or similar equipment is likely to be used.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial !important]Informational Note No. 2: Examples of rooms that are not meeting rooms include auditoriums, schoolrooms, and coffee shops.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial !important](B)Receptacle Outlets Required.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial !important]The total number of receptacle outlets, including floor outlets and receptacle outlets in fixed furniture, shall not be less than as determined in (1) and (2). These receptacle outlets shall be permitted to be located as determined by the designer or building owner.[/FONT]
(1)Receptacle Outlets in Fixed Walls.
[FONT=Arial !important]Receptacle outlets shall be installed in accordance with 210.52(A)(1) through (A)(4).[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial !important](2)Floor Receptacle Outlets.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial !important]A meeting room that is at least 3.7 m (12 ft) wide and that has a floor area of at least 20 m²(215 ft²) shall have at least one receptacle outlet located in the floor at a distance not less than 1.8 m (6 ft) from any fixed wall for each 20 m² (215 ft²) or major portion of floor space.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial !important]Informational Note No. 1: See Section 314.27(B) for floor boxes used for receptacles located in the floor.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial !important]Informational Note No. 2: See Article 518 for assembly occupancies designed for 100 or more persons.[/FONT]

 

[Doctor Electric]

What do you mean your waiting for the price to come down I'm getting a Deal for a new 2017 and a quick tab loose leaf ring binder for 140 after tax and shipping they're not that much and you keep it for life great investment if you ask me but hey thats just my preference

 

[Hertz Hound]

I already spent my allowance on a codebook for this cycle when I bought the e-book. I only need a printed version at this point to throw in a box in the basement with all
the others. My 2014 got soaking wet within the first few months and has. Even drying out in the back seat for years. I never use it. The 2014 PDF version is dry as a bone. That is my go to book.

The only reason I might have to buy a printed version earlier, is if I need it for the code update course. I have always bought one for that, so I am not sure if bringing in a tablet will be a problem.

 

[peter d]

Can you imagine requiring a receptacle every 12 feet in a distribution center? :lol:

 

[jaylectricity]

What do you mean your waiting for the price to come down I'm getting a Deal for a new 2017 and a quick tab loose leaf ring binder for 140 after tax and shipping they're not that much and you keep it for life great investment if you ask me but hey thats just my preference

What do you mean, "keep it for life"? It's only totally accurate for three years, and even that claim is dubious at best.

 

[peter d]

I didn't buy the 2014 code book and I'm not buying this one either.

 

[MNSparky]

Can you imagine requiring a receptacle every 12 feet in a distribution center? :lol:

Ha! I just envisioned what that would be like, Tim! I also envisioned what it would be like to give one of our apprentices, who is especially lippy lately, a pallet of receptacles and a pallet of industrial covers and tell him to go device those boxes. That would be satisfying... :happyyes::bye::lol:

 

[Doctor Electric]

Yes every 12 would seem a bit much and as far as your pdf code book rock on brother I'm not hating we all have our niche

 

[Doctor Electric]

I don't understand though why wouldn't you buy the book don't you need it for code. Or is there another secret society I don't know about that you wouldn't need it..?

 

[kwired]

What do you mean, "keep it for life"? It's only totally accurate for three years, and even that claim is dubious at best.

He will primarily use the E book. The hard copy is for the archive of old code books he has, just in case someday the software changes and he can no longer read his E book without some software update - the hard copy will still be as readable as ancient scripts still are.

I will probably wait for the price to come down to get the 2017 book. Maybe till after 2020.

In the meantime I will use the ebook.......it shipped instantly!

[FONT=Arial !important]N 210.71 Meeting Rooms.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial !important](A)General.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial !important]Each meeting room of not more than 93 m² (1000 ft²) in other than dwelling units shall have outlets for nonlocking-type, 125-volt, 15- or 20-ampere receptacles. The outlets shall be installed in accordance with 210.71(B). Where a room or space is provided with movable partition(s), each room size shall be determined with the partition in the position that results in the smallest size meeting room.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial !important]Informational Note No. 1: For the purposes of this section, meeting rooms are typically designed or intended for the gathering of seated occupants for such purposes as conferences, deliberations, or similar purposes, where portable electronic equipment such as computers, projectors, or similar equipment is likely to be used.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial !important]Informational Note No. 2: Examples of rooms that are not meeting rooms include auditoriums, schoolrooms, and coffee shops.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial !important](B)Receptacle Outlets Required.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial !important]The total number of receptacle outlets, including floor outlets and receptacle outlets in fixed furniture, shall not be less than as determined in (1) and (2). These receptacle outlets shall be permitted to be located as determined by the designer or building owner.[/FONT]
(1)Receptacle Outlets in Fixed Walls.
[FONT=Arial !important]Receptacle outlets shall be installed in accordance with 210.52(A)(1) through (A)(4).[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial !important](2)Floor Receptacle Outlets.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial !important]A meeting room that is at least 3.7 m (12 ft) wide and that has a floor area of at least 20 m²(215 ft²) shall have at least one receptacle outlet located in the floor at a distance not less than 1.8 m (6 ft) from any fixed wall for each 20 m² (215 ft²) or major portion of floor space.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial !important]Informational Note No. 1: See Section 314.27(B) for floor boxes used for receptacles located in the floor.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial !important]Informational Note No. 2: See Article 518 for assembly occupancies designed for 100 or more persons.[/FONT]

Around here the coffee shop is the most important meeting room there is. They overrule everything at these meetings from the agenda of local school board meetings, city council meetings, State Legislature, US House, Senate, and the President as well.:lol:

 

[growler]

they're not that much and you keep it for life great investment.

As you get older that "keep it for life" doesn't sound so long.

 

[kwired]

As you get older that "keep it for life" doesn't sound so long.

That is when your grandkids/great grandkids call your possessions "antiques or collectibles"

I am still mostly on the "collector" side of that scenario - I think, but maybe about at the transition line.

 

[ShockedMonkey]

Edit: service outlet at panels w/in 50'

Lighting at panels. Depending on the type of commercial, there are signage requirements (eg. display cases and plate glass window outlets for neon type signs) also exterior signage.

If by outlets you mean 'receptacles' I'm unaware of any other than AC/Heating equipment outlets within 25' if I recall. Typically rooftop here.