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Is there a rule against putting apartment electric panel's in the apartments' bedroom? Talkin 100A panel, in a 1 bedroom apartment complex where there are 20 apartments.
Panel in Bedrooms
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bphgravity
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Re: Panel in Bedrooms
No, they are allowed in bedrooms, however it is certainly not the best design.
Section 240.24(D) does not allow overcurrent devices in clothes closets or other ares that have easily ignitible materials.
Section 240.(E) does not allow overcurrent devices in bathrooms for dwelling units.
No, they are allowed in bedrooms, however it is certainly not the best design.
Section 240.24(D) does not allow overcurrent devices in clothes closets or other ares that have easily ignitible materials.
Section 240.(E) does not allow overcurrent devices in bathrooms for dwelling units.
Re: Panel in Bedrooms
Bph could you expand on what the code refers to when it says "easily ignitible materials", would not a bedroom contain these type of materials, and don't get me wrong I agree with you 100%, its just that the code is very vague about this.
[ June 15, 2003, 07:48 PM: Message edited by: jro ]
Bph could you expand on what the code refers to when it says "easily ignitible materials", would not a bedroom contain these type of materials, and don't get me wrong I agree with you 100%, its just that the code is very vague about this.
[ June 15, 2003, 07:48 PM: Message edited by: jro ]
txsparky
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Re: Panel in Bedrooms
Hmmm,
Would the panel need to be AFCI protected?
Hmmm,
Would the panel need to be AFCI protected?
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a.wayne3@verizon.net
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Re: Panel in Bedrooms
tx sparky good question,but doesnt the outlets description eliminate a panel since an outlet as decsribed in the nec (a point on the wiring system at which current is taken to supply utilization equiptment)Doesn`t this take a panel out of the realm of things since there is no attachment to the panel within the bedroom IE:
receptacle,light outlet,smoke detector.These would be afci protected at the panel but the panel itself would not be a direct point of utilization...................................
Allen
tx sparky good question,but doesnt the outlets description eliminate a panel since an outlet as decsribed in the nec (a point on the wiring system at which current is taken to supply utilization equiptment)Doesn`t this take a panel out of the realm of things since there is no attachment to the panel within the bedroom IE:
receptacle,light outlet,smoke detector.These would be afci protected at the panel but the panel itself would not be a direct point of utilization...................................
Allen
bphgravity
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Re: Panel in Bedrooms
Common ignition temperatures:
Pine Wood = 442 degrees F
Fiber Board = 421-450 degrees F
Paint = 864 degrees F
Newspaper = 446 degrees F
Cotton = 464 degrees F
Nylon = 887 degrees F
Rubber = 374 degrees F
As you can see, a pile of clothes on the floor, in front of a panelboard, containing OCD is no more likely to ignite than the wood that the panel is mounted to.
Common ignition temperatures:
Pine Wood = 442 degrees F
Fiber Board = 421-450 degrees F
Paint = 864 degrees F
Newspaper = 446 degrees F
Cotton = 464 degrees F
Nylon = 887 degrees F
Rubber = 374 degrees F
As you can see, a pile of clothes on the floor, in front of a panelboard, containing OCD is no more likely to ignite than the wood that the panel is mounted to.
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Re: Panel in Bedrooms
Bryan have you been playing with fire?
I would have to agree with Bennie, the panel should contain any faults, so what is the purpose of 240.24(D)?
As to the Arc fault question the wording of 210.12(B) seems to eliminate a panel in a bedroom from arc fault protection.
Bryan have you been playing with fire?
I would have to agree with Bennie, the panel should contain any faults, so what is the purpose of 240.24(D)?
As to the Arc fault question the wording of 210.12(B) seems to eliminate a panel in a bedroom from arc fault protection.
jxofaltrds
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Re: Panel in Bedrooms
Is this an eff. apt.?
IE 1 bath, a kitchen, and a living room/bedroom combo.
Can't put it in the bathroom. No room in the kitchen.
Living room/bedroom???
Mike P.
Is this an eff. apt.?
IE 1 bath, a kitchen, and a living room/bedroom combo.
Can't put it in the bathroom. No room in the kitchen.
Living room/bedroom???
Mike P.
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