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Can a 480 distribution center be located in a hallway corridor without doors on it? This a rather large ~5 foot tall panel. I saw one today. So far I can't find a reason it can't but it just looks so wrong. Really odd looking thing there in the hall of the building.
 
Safety Guy said:
Can a 480 distribution center be located in a hallway corridor without doors on it? This a rather large ~5 foot tall panel. I saw one today. So far I can't find a reason it can't but it just looks so wrong. Really odd looking thing there in the hall of the building.

Could we have bit more info like is this commercial .residential,number of persons
 
It's a commercial building. I'd rather not say what type building it is for reasons I can't say as well. lol The number of persons is low rough guess 25-30 per floor in, oh...about 25,000 sq. ft. or so I would say.

I've been looking at 110.26 it seems to meet all of them unless I'm missing something. I guess I've just never seen electrical panels that big controlling whole floors of a building in the hall without a cover or anything to protect them I suppose.
 
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I guess I've just never seen electrical panels that big controlling whole floors of a building in the hall without a cover or anything to protect them I suppose.
Are you suggesting that you believe that there is something unsafe about a dead front panelboard? Not all of them have doors, and that's okay with me. For an indoor panel in normal locations, they're just for beauty anyhow.
 
mdshunk said:
Are you suggesting that you believe that there is something unsafe about a dead front panelboard? Not all of them have doors, and that's okay with me. For an indoor panel in normal locations, they're just for beauty anyhow.


I think he is talking about a panel similar to an Iline. If you don't specify doors, you often get one without any kind of front cover. The levers and fronts of the breakers are exposed - no metal cover on the panel at all. Anyone could walk up to the panel and flip a breaker off.

I don't know of any code that prevents this, but I don't think it is a very good design.

A door could probably be ordered for the panel.

Steve
 
steve66 said:
Anyone could walk up to the panel and flip a breaker off.
Heaven forbid. Yeah, matter of fact, I was just reading about that becoming a problem in this evening's newspaper. Seriously, what's that hazard with exposed handles on dead front equipment? Simply put, unless this panel serves a heart-lung bypass machine or something like that, there is no hazard.
 
Don't confuse NEC with good design.

90.1 (B)...Compliance therewith and proper maintenance results in an installation that is esstentially free from hazard but not necessarily effecient, convenient, or adequate fopr good service...
 
"heart-lung bypass machine or something like that, there is no hazard"

Not life threatening but it is that serious. But that wasn't the point. From that perspective and due the fact it's not "life threatening" equipment or something, that's the owners responsibility if they want it there. (Security's not my bag.)

I guess it's okay. I don't personally know of a reason it can't be installed that way code wise, nor could I find one. But it IS the first one I've ever seen installed this way. (Really wierd looking.) Usually if something looks that strange and you've never seen it before it's a good rule of thumb to question it because there usually is a reason you haven't seen it that way before. I didn't have a problem with it, but I couldn't help but question the legality of it being exposed in the hall. The quote above got my attention though. It's not a safety issue to have breakers exposed unless the voltage is the issue. So I leaned toward it's probably OK immediately after seeing that. After reading so much of the NFPA (which the NEC is part of) you start noticing tendancies in methods. The safety aspect is fine, unless I missed something which I don't think I did, so I think it's ok. It appears to be okay from the general consensus here too.

That answer is a little scatterbrained, but I think I said what I mean hurrying.
 
I have to assume that we are talking about a stand up section? And you said it was in a corridor. You might have some troubles with your exiting requirements if it's a true corridor. If it's a flush mount you might have trouble if it's a rated corridor.

But, (I always say that when I'm not really sure) I don't think there is any NEC violation as long as you have your clearances as mentioned earlier.
 
"I can build anything you want if you draw a picture of it on the back of a big enough check."

I'll have to remember that one.

Flush mount, non-rated corridor.

Heres one for you. Ever see plexiglass bolted over a panel? Saw that one too recently. Looked nice although it's blocking access to the panel. I think that may be more of an OSHA issue than the NEC though.
 
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