Panelboard Doors

[Caligula]

I'm involved in the electrical design for a local elementary school renovation. The school is quite old. Each classroom has a small (usually 4 breaker) panelboard, very old, just a metal cover flush with the wall and breakers sticking out. No 'door' on the panel.

Ignoring the obvious problems with having operable circuit breakers in an elementary school classroom, is there a CODE requirement for a panelboard to have a door?

I've been unable to find anything in the code requiring one. Perhaps this falls under having a dead-front?

Thanks for your help.

 

[480sparky]

240.30 General.
(B) Operating Handle. The operating handle of a circuit breaker shall be permitted to be accessible without opening a door or cover

 

[Dennis Alwon]

The panel you showed does not come with a door and there is really no reason for one other than to keep hands off. Perfectly legal-but I bet those breakers will get flipped a few times.

 

[nhfire77]

I'm guessing they don't make an exact match, and this wouldn't make it "safer" but, would breaker locks be helpful?

 

[480sparky]

I'm guessing they don't make an exact match, and this wouldn't make it "safer" but, would breaker locks be helpful?

For Pushmatics?

 

[Pierre C Belarge]

Schools, kids and electrical are not a good mix.
Seeing as you said this is an old school, it has obviously worked.

Me, I would not mind building a small cabinet with a lock. Out of sight, out of mind.

 

[480sparky]

.............Me, I would not mind building a small cabinet with a lock. Out of sight, out of mind.

Why not just get a large enough panel cover with a door and lock and screw it to the wall?

 

[Jim W in Tampa]

I see a violation of 110.26 with that t stat and if you add a door you might just be adding another. If high enough of floor and not been a problem i would leave it alone assuming bus bars are still good. What is that thing under the panel ?
Panels without doors are no problem if came without.

 

[iwire]

For Pushmatics?

Where did pushmatics come into this?

 

[480sparky]

Where did pushmatics come into this?

Post #1 .

 

[iwire]

Post #1 .

Look again or show me.

 

[480sparky]

Look again or show me.

What brand do those look like to you?

 

[Dennis Alwon]

Look like ITE but not pushamatic--- Not to me anywho.

 

[curt swartz]

Looks like old GE TQL to me.

 

[qcroanoke]

Looks like old GE TQL to me.

That's what I'm thinking.

 

[nyhockey]

Leave it alone. If you change anything and somebody does get hurt is now your fault.

 

[roger3829]

Post #1 .

Where in Post #1

That's a standard GE Panel (Pretty sure)

 

[480sparky]

Where in Post #1

That's a standard GE Panel (Pretty sure)

All I see are Pushmatics. At least that's why my aging eyes and feeble mind can make of it.

 

[iwire]

What brand do those look like to you?[/IMG]

I do not know what brand they are but I do know they are not pushmatics.

 

[raider1]

I do not know what brand they are but I do know they are not pushmatics.

I agree.

Chris