parallel cable ampacity

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dm9289

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Wecurrently have 1000 kcmil copper THHN single conductor cable we need to replace (ground contact with megaohmmeter) and i have little experience with paralleling.

The ampacity of copper 1000 thhn is 615 amps
The ampacity of copper 300 thhn is 320 ( 320x 2= 640 amps)

So i thought I could replace the 1000 with 2 pieces of 300 thhn. For some reason this dont seem correct to me it seems that I would need 2 pieces of 500.

Thanks for the help
 
Your sort of correct but your using ampacities from the 90C column. Do you know what the
load is and how they terminate at each end? Could have pricey issues trying to land 2 conductors per phase on a pricey breaker designed for one.
 
Load is approximately 560 amps. Termination on one side is bolted lugs on low voltage switchgear, the other side is a heating grid same style hook ups.
 
Load is approximately 560 amps. Termination on one side is bolted lugs on low voltage switchgear, the other side is a heating grid same style hook ups.

Hope you have 90C rated lugs because 1000 is only good for 545A at 75C. What size OCPD are these conductors protected by?
 
The terminations are about 50 years old not sure of value but if we replace wires with 2-300 we will buy proper terminations. Was wondering in paralelling do you simply add ampacities ratings or is there more to it
 
Your numbers are correct, although you'll probably need to use the 60 or 75 degree ampacity column, depending on the rating of your lugs/terminations. As I recall, the reason you can pump more current through (2) #500 MCMs than (1) #1000 MCM, even though their cross-sectional area is the same, is because of skin effect.

If we were using DC, the current density would be the same throughout the entire cross-section of the conductor. However, with AC, most of the current flows near the surface of the conductor. Because of this, the circumference of your conductors becomes more important than their cross-sectional area for determining ampacity.

For example, a 1000 MCM conductor has twice the cross-sectional area of a 500 MCM conductor, but its circumference is only about 1.4 times larger. And if you look at the ampacity table (310.16), you'll find that the ampacity of a 1000 MCM conductor is also about 1.4 times that of a 500 MCM conductor.

Similarly, a 1000 MCM conductor has a circumference that is about 1.8 times that of a 300 MCM conductor, and an ampacity that is about 1.9 times that of the 300 MCM. Notice that the ratios aren't quite as close as they were for the 1000 MCM vs. 500 MCM. As I understand it, this is because the skin effect becomes more pronounced the larger the conductors become.

This is actually the reason the NEC allows paralleling large conductors -- if we weren't allowed to parallel conductors, the wires would end up being ridiculously huge whenever a large ampacity was required. Instead of being able to use 3 sets of 400 MCMs or 4 sets of 250 MCMs, you would need to use 1 set of something like 3200 MCMs. That would be over 2.5 times the copper used for the 3 sets of 400 MCMs, and over 3 times the copper used for the 4 sets of 250 MCMs.
 
The terminations are about 50 years old not sure of value but if we replace wires with 2-300 we will buy proper terminations. Was wondering in paralelling do you simply add ampacities ratings or is there more to it
Yes, you just add the ampacities when paralleling conductors.
 
Thanks for the excellent explanation, I was reading in the NEC about sizes of conductors and your explanation elaborated perfectly up thank you very much. As for the terminations we will have to investigate what would be available like you mentioned a temp rating other than 90 is more realistic.

Thanks again all

Dave
 
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