PE stamp fees

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Andres Arias

PV Solar engineer
Location
New York
Occupation
Electrical Engineer
Hello. I am reaching out to ask about $$ inquire.

As a professional engineer, how much should I charge to stamp arquitectural and electrical plans for Photovoltaic residential projects?. My company is dealing with a little mnore than 50 residential deals a month, however we have not jumped into an arrangement to stamp those plans yet, but we'll do soon. As per your experience, and considering the amount of deals to stamp, which should a fair $$ agreement be under this context?

Thanks in advance for your feedback
 
ron said:
If you are doing the design, roll the additional risk of stamping into your fee. We do not design something without also stamping, so I can't suggest an add-on fee to a design.

Generally PEs are not permitted to stamp someone else's design.
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jim dungar said:
None of the 5 states I was licensed in allowed the selling of a PE stamp. If the work was not done under your supervision you were not allowed to stamp it.
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So a PE cannot review and seal drawings made by someone else? It seems like in any sizeable project the PE of record is not making the drawings.
 
Andres Arias said:
A Professional Engineer can stamp someone else’s drawing as long as they are aware of and knowledgeable about what is being stamped.
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That's been my experience when we've had drawings from firms that are out of state where they hired a local firm to review them for local code compliance and seal them.
 
So what happens if a contractor wants to do something a certain way and submits them to the PE with explanation why they did it this way?

Does the PE have to hide the contractor's drawing in the drawer and redo it himself without peeking?
 
Birken Vogt said:
So what happens if a contractor wants to do something a certain way and submits them to the PE with explanation why they did it this way?

Does the PE have to hide the contractor's drawing in the drawer and redo it himself without peeking?
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For North Carolina:

The updated version of Rule .0701 removes the word employee from the rule and further defines how a licensee exercises responsible charge over assignments. The new Rule .0701 still prohibits a licensee from affixing their seal “to any engineering or land surveying plan or document for which the licensee was not in responsible charge of the work through direct control and personal supervision.”

The new rule then states that to exercise responsible charge, the licensee must possess full professional knowledge of and control over the work and shall do the following:

• Have and exercise the authority to review and to change, reject or approve both the work in progress and the final work product, through examination, evaluation, communication and direction throughout the development of the work;

• Be personally aware of the scope of the work, its needs, parameters, limitations and special requirements

;• Be capable of answering questions relevant to the surveying or engineering decisions made as part of the services provided, in sufficient detail to demonstrate knowledge of the proficiency in the work; and

• Accept full responsibility for the work.
 
dkidd said:
For North Carolina:

The updated version of Rule .0701 removes the word employee from the rule and further defines how a licensee exercises responsible charge over assignments. The new Rule .0701 still prohibits a licensee from affixing their seal “to any engineering or land surveying plan or document for which the licensee was not in responsible charge of the work through direct control and personal supervision.”

The new rule then states that to exercise responsible charge, the licensee must possess full professional knowledge of and control over the work and shall do the following:

• Have and exercise the authority to review and to change, reject or approve both the work in progress and the final work product, through examination, evaluation, communication and direction throughout the development of the work;

• Be personally aware of the scope of the work, its needs, parameters, limitations and special requirements

;• Be capable of answering questions relevant to the surveying or engineering decisions made as part of the services provided, in sufficient detail to demonstrate knowledge of the proficiency in the work; and

• Accept full responsibility for the work.
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This is how we've done it (infrequently) in the past. With the blessing of the NJ Board of Professional Engineers & Land Surveyors. As usual, YMMV.
 
ron said:
In NYS, there are very specific rules for signing/sealing. Does things get done inappropriately by some, of course, but liability should cause lots of hesitation.
Look about halfway down on the website below "Sealing Work Prepared by Others"

NYS Professional Engineering:Practice Guidelines:Guideline 3

Licensed Professions: Professional Engineering and Land Surveying
www.op.nysed.gov www.op.nysed.gov
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I like that section 29.3(a)(3) requirement for a written evaluation of the work reviewed. That can save your butt if something goes sideways 10 years down the road.
 
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