Pendant drop cord

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PowerdT

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Hi guys, as a new designer, I am having hard time to picture this Or what lay out is preferable for contractors to install around (23) Dedicated 120V, 20A pendant mounted drop cord Receptacle from the ceiling to provide power for workbench area?

To be more precise on the area:
one room needs (6) dedicated 120V,20A and second room needs (17) dedicated 120V, 20A

Any suggestions is appreciated. Thank you in advance.
 

LarryFine

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Someone needs to pick the best spot for each and every one.

Or, make a layout with flexibility. The needs constantly change.

We'd have to see a detailed plan to help with this specific job.
 

Another C10

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To be more precise on the area:
one room needs (6) dedicated 120V,20A and second room needs (17) dedicated 120V, 20A

First thing to consider is what is the intention of the lighting, is it for eating areas or is it for displaying products or is it simply for overall floor space.

also I noticed you using the word dedicated 120v /20a keep in mind that one noted circuit will provide +- 2400 watts of power.
Example : If each fixture is 150 w you could operate roughly 16 fixtures, although I'd cut that number in half just for some wiggle room.
 

hbiss

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First thing to consider is what is the intention of the lighting, is it for eating areas or is it for displaying products or is it simply for overall floor space.

also I noticed you using the word dedicated 120v /20a keep in mind that one noted circuit will provide +- 2400 watts of power.
Example : If each fixture is 150 w you could operate roughly 16 fixtures, although I'd cut that number in half just for some wiggle room.

Who said anything about fixtures or lighting? These are receptacles to power equipment or tools on work benches.

-Hal
 

tom baker

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4S boxes, come out of box with 12-3 SO, leave some slack, then a kellums grip hanging from joist. The cord drop could be moved depending on length of slack. Can do this with a drop ceiling, go to a Costco bakery, its how they power the mixers and such
 

PowerdT

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I have attached pdf layout below if it can help a bit
 

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PowerdT

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4S boxes, come out of box with 12-3 SO, leave some slack, then a kellums grip hanging from joist. The cord drop could be moved depending on length of slack. Can do this with a drop ceiling, go to a Costco bakery, its how they power the mixers and such

I see. So 4S boxes for each power outlet,
 

PowerdT

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Will it make sense if I pull, (2) sets 3/4”C, #12AWG at 90degree to the room on the left and (4) sets 3/4”C, #12AWG at 90 degree for The room on the right?
 

Another C10

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We have to be careful. Saying something like that can set off 4 pages of debates about pendent hung fixtures and completely bury the original question. :rolleyes:

-Hal
Your right .. not sure why I jumped the gun on the word pendent. mind said light fixtures. yes, drop cords , a whole different scenario.
 

MTW

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4S boxes, come out of box with 12-3 SO, leave some slack, then a kellums grip hanging from joist. The cord drop could be moved depending on length of slack. Can do this with a drop ceiling, go to a Costco bakery, its how they power the mixers and such

It was always enforced in my area, that chords were not allowed to pass through drop ceilings. A box is always required in the drop ceiling, with a Chapter 3 wiring method supplying it from above. Then attach your chord drop to a plate mounted to the box. Strain relief chord connectors attached to each box.

I normally used bus drop cable and fittings, since I have those in stock, and I believe less expensive when bought by the carton, as compared to SO cable. Oftentimes we would attach the lower outlet box to the machine or work surface for stability. A 4 square box has plenty of sharp corners, and can be a hazard swinging around when disturbed. Not to mention, hard to attach an equipment chord to a box swinging in free air. It used to be a requirement that FS boxes with a hub were required for pendant boxes, but I no longer see that in the 2017 NEC. FS boxes are stronger and have smooth rounded corners which makes them more suitable for free hanging boxes, less chance for injury from the sharp corners of a 4" sq box.

400.12 Uses Not Permitted. Unless specifically permitted in
400.10, flexible cables, flexible cord sets, and power supply
cords shall not be used for the following:
(1) As a substitute for the fixed wiring of a structure
(2) Where run through holes in walls, structural ceilings,
suspended ceilings, dropped ceilings, or floors

(3) Where run through doorways, windows, or similar openings
(4) Where attached to building surfaces
Exception to (4): Flexible cord and flexible cable shall be permitted to be
attached to building surfaces in accordance with 368.56(B) .
(5) Where concealed by walls, floors, or ceilings or located
above suspended or dropped ceilings

Exception to (5): Flexible cord and flexible cable shall be permitted if
contained within an enclosure for use in Other Spaces Used for Environmental
Air as permitted by 300.22(C)(3).
(6) Where installed in raceways, except as otherwise permitted
in this Code
(7) Where subject to physical damage

Though not applicable in Etanuye's case, I always try to use the methods and materials approved for busway drops. If it's sturdy enough for industrial use, should be more than adequate for most other uses.

368.56 (B) Cord and Cable Assemblies. Suitable cord and cable
assemblies approved for extra-hard usage or hard usage and
listed bus drop cable shall be permitted as branches from
busways for the connection of portable equipment or the
connection of stationary equipment to facilitate their interchange

in accordance with 400.10 and 400.12 and the following
conditions:
(1) The cord or cable shall be attached to the building by an
approved means.

(2) The length of the cord or cable from a busway plug-in
device to a suitable tension take-up support device shall
not exceed 1.8 m (6 ft).
(3) The cord and cable shall be installed as a vertical riser
from the tension take-up support device to the equipment
served.
(4) Strain relief cable grips shall be provided for the cord or
cable at the busway plug-in device and equipment terminations.

Exception to (B)(2): In industrial establishments only, where the conditions
of maintenance and supervision ensure that only qualified
persons service the installation, lengths exceeding 1.8 m (6 ft) shall be
permitted between the busway plug-in device and the tension take-up
support device where the cord or cable is supported at intervals not
exceeding 2.5 m (8 ft).

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Strain Relief Wire Mesh Chord Grip
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Bus Drop Cable
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packersparky

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4S boxes, come out of box with 12-3 SO, leave some slack, then a kellums grip hanging from joist. The cord drop could be moved depending on length of slack. Can do this with a drop ceiling, go to a Costco bakery, its how they power the mixers and such


Flexible cord can't be attached to a building surface unless the cord comes from a busway. 400.12(4)
 

Todd0x1

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CA
Make sure proper pendant boxes are used and not a 4S box on the end of the cord.

I did one of these where we had L5-20 receptacles installed on the ceiling, then a cord assembly with L5-20P and single gang double sided pendant box with two duplex receptacles. A kellems grip with a snap hook was placed on the cord a couple feet behind the plug, this attached to eyebolts on the ceiling. This allowed for the drops to be removed when not needed.
 
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