permanently installed outlets

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Praedatus1

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hey guys, I am contending with an OSHA guy tomorrow and I have a question: If I have permanently installed surface mounted outlets on a metal wall next to my service, am I required to have gfi's in them, or is it up to the carpenters to supply their own gfci cord protection? Mind you, my outlets are not temporary- they are moving in the permanent equipment that uses the outlets next week, but the carpenters are using the double duplexes for power. Is it up to me or them for gfci protection? Thanks!
 

Jim W in Tampa

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Tampa Florida
hey guys, I am contending with an OSHA guy tomorrow and I have a question: If I have permanently installed surface mounted outlets on a metal wall next to my service, am I required to have gfi's in them, or is it up to the carpenters to supply their own gfci cord protection? Mind you, my outlets are not temporary- they are moving in the permanent equipment that uses the outlets next week, but the carpenters are using the double duplexes for power. Is it up to me or them for gfci protection? Thanks!

Save time and fines just give the idiots gfi
 

iwire

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As far as OSHA it is up to each employer to ensure that their employees are using GFCI protected circuits.

It is not the ECs job to be the GFCI police for every trade that steps on site.

Here it is right from OSHA

Standard Interpretations
02/07/2005 - Requirements of 1926.404(b)(1) application to 208-volt branch circuits; electrical subcontractor requirements under 1926.404(b)(1) to monitor other on-site subcontractors.



Question (2): Scenario A: A general contractor brings in an electrical subcontractor to install temporary electrical service at a construction site. The electrical sub properly installs a service panel. Each outlet in the service panel is grounded. There is no contractual requirement that the electrical sub maintain assured grounding programs.

Scenario B: Same as Scenario A, except that the electrical subcontractor properly installs GFCI protection for each outlet. There is no contractual requirement that the electrical sub maintain the GFCIs.

In Scenarios A and B, is the electrical subcontractor required to monitor the compliance of other on-site subcontractors with the ground fault protection provisions of ?1926.404(b)(1)?

Answer: No.
As noted above, ?1926.404(b)(1)(i) provides that the "employer" is required to use either a GFCI or an assured equipment grounding conductor program for ground fault protection. The Preamble to this rule (volume 41 of the Federal Register, page 55696) discussed the rationale behind offering the alternative methods of compliance under ?1926.440(h)(1).2
* * * the use of assured equipment grounding conductor programs on construction sites can be as effective as ... the use of GFCI's.
* * * an employer may choose one method of protection or the other on the basis of several factors. The individual employer may choose on the basis of cost; if his local jurisdiction already requires GFCI's, he may choose GFCI's; if he is one employer of many on a construction site, the availability of alternatives gives him flexibility to coordinate compliance. [Emphasis added.]
This reflects an intent that the term "employer," as used in ?1926.404(b)(1)(i) of the ground fault provision, when applied in the context of a construction site with multiple employers, refers to each of the employers/subcontractors with employees exposed to the hazard. Thus, each employer/subcontractor on the site that has exposed employees is obligated to ensure that one of the options is in "use."

In sum, in Scenarios A and B, absent any additional factors,3 the electrical subcontractor would not be responsible for monitoring the compliance of other subcontractors at the site with ?1926.404(b)(1).

If you need additional information, please contact us by fax (202-693-1689) at: U.S. Department of Labor, OSHA, Office of Construction Standards and Guidance, fax # 202-693-1689. You can also contact us at the above office, Room N3468, 200 Constitution Avenue, N.W., Washington, D.C. 20210, although there will be a delay in our receiving correspondence by mail.

Sincerely,


Russell B. Swanson, Director
Directorate of Construction
 

iwire

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Thanks. :smile:


My employer has us post signs reminding all the other trades of this when we start turning on permanent power and removing temps. The GC also gets notified.
 
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