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tonyou812

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I am going to look at a job tommorow that is a small commercial building that will have a bar/restaurant and 3 small units. The owner of the building has fired the present electritian and wants to hire me. I beileve that the permits for electrical work need to be changed to my name right?
what are some other things to consider in a situation like this?
 
I agree with 480 but will add I will be very surprised if it would be OK for you to work under the other ECs permit.
 
You just need to go down to the building office and file a change form. Some places don't even charge for this. Just bring your seal in case they want you to seal the new permit application.
 
tonyou812 said:
The owner of the building has fired the present electritian and wants to hire me.

The permit should be easy enough to change as others have said but I would be carefull with this job. For some reason things didn't work out to well for the last EC and you had better find out what really happened before taking on the job. Don't be afraid to ask for the company name and phone number of the last EC then give them a call and get the other side of the story.

I took over a job from another contractor last spring but before I did I taked to the other contractor and he gave me a world of information about the GC.
 
We took over a mini storage project last winter, where the original EC went belly up. Even hired the same journeyman that was running the job.

Didnt take long to see why the other GC went south. The journeyman couldn't read prints or stay off the phone.
 
iwire said:
I agree with 480 but will add I will be very surprised if it would be OK for you to work under the other ECs permit.

On a couple of occasions, I have had to have my permit cancelled because I was not allowed to finish a job (customer ran out of money, or the builder I was working with left the job unfinished). I had to contact the AHJ and make sure my name was removed from their records.

In both cases I had roughed the job in and had them inspected, but never went back to finish them. The problem, if someone else finished the job, is legal liability on my part. I can control what I do, but not Fly-By-Night Electric who finished it. If there's a problem down the road, there can be a lot of finger-pointing, especially if a shock, burn, death or fire is involved.
 
most building departments require that the original contractor be notified that a second permit is being applied for his job. and this is good for us electrical contractors. i have been involved in a few of these jobs and have asked the electrical inspector for a job site meeting with the owner in attendance before proceeding with the work. that way he knows what condition the job was in when you took it over and get's you started on the right foot with the owner too. i have always contacted the other contractor before agreeing to take the job over. most of the time it was a mutual agreement -- the owner and the contractor couldn't get along --mostly because of job progress.... some guys just can't turn a job down even when they know they can't handle it???

we had one job that we were underbid by the other contractor-- our bid 130k, his 95k ? after the job was C.O.'ed by the city, the customer started having all kinds of problems-- the gc call us to check this other guy's work --- we came in with six guys after hours and opened things up. in four hours we documented over 200 code violations. the owner was an attorney and after our inspection we had a meeting, he asked me "bottom line, what the verdict?" --- i told him "you got what you paid for!". he agreed to have the repairs done T&M and much of it after hours since they had occupied the space and couldn't move. they recovered 30k from the original contractor and it cost him an additional 32k to make it right. and this job was inspected and signed off!!! couldn't believe it!!!
 
220/221 said:
First thing I would want to know is, why was the EC fired?
I was going to bring this up if noone else did. I would make a thorough investigation of the circumstances surrounding the former EC's dismissal. May keep you from getting into something you wish you hadn't:mad:
 
Depends on your state & county

Depends on your state & county

In North Carolina all that is required is that the person that obtained the original permit call the COUNTY or CITY (whoever issues the permit) and have them change the permit to you as the contractor.
As for other things, I would call the assigned inspector and talk to him and find out what he or she puts their emphasis on for the various inspections.

Good luck with the contract!
 
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