Phase Tape Underground Wires

[hlee53us]

What’s the code for phase taping underground wires? I was told phase tape is not allowed for underground wires.

I have two scenarios:
1. 2-#8 Black and White (white is phase taped as Red) - 240v circuit

2. 2-#8 Black and Red (red is phase taped as white) - 120v circuit

 

[LarryFine]

See 200.6

 

[ptonsparky]

#4 and larger are allowed to be taped or marked in some fashion to identify them. Your 8s don’t fit the bill. Install the correct wire colors.

 

[hlee53us]

Well... these are all Existing UG wires that are phased taped (old and unpullable). I am just tapping into it. I wonder if there is a local San Francisco rule that allows it

 

[infinity]

What’s the code for phase taping underground wires? I was told phase tape is not allowed for underground wires.

I have two scenarios:
1. 2-#8 Black and White (white is phase taped as Red) - 240v circuit

2. 2-#8 Black and Red (red is phase taped as white) - 120v circuit

White can only be re-identified as an ungrounded conductor if it's in a cable. In a raceway it is not permitted to re-identify a white conductor of any size as an ungrounded conductor.

 

[qcroanoke]

Well... these are all Existing UG wires that are phased taped (old and unpullable). I am just tapping into it. I wonder if there is a local San Francisco rule that allows it

Doubtful. Probably never inspected or installed by someone who didn't care what the code said or it was all they had on the truck...

 

[ptonsparky]

Old stuff changes things. Do what you want.

 

[hlee53us]

Old stuff changes things???

 

[ptonsparky]

Old stuff changes things???

Are you going to bury new? If not, you will need to work with what you have.

Is it being inspected? Ask the AHJ.

You didn't mention an EG.

 

[sameguy]

Wow, I can't believe it didn't burn down being non compliant with the color code code.
Play what you were dealt or replace them.

 

[LarryFine]

Wow, I can't believe it didn't burn down being non compliant with the color code code.

Is this that new thing called sarcasm?

 

[kwired]

What’s the code for phase taping underground wires? I was told phase tape is not allowed for underground wires.

I have two scenarios:
1. 2-#8 Black and White (white is phase taped as Red) - 240v circuit

2. 2-#8 Black and Red (red is phase taped as white) - 120v circuit

are both at same location? they did it backwards if so. You didn't mention if there is any EGC's involved, if not you are likely replacing things anyway if you want to pass an inspection.

 

[sameguy]

Is this that new thing called sarcasm?

Why yes! Yes it is! Nice of you to notice.