#### wwhitney

##### Senior Member
Here's a PI I just submitted. Cheers, Wayne

If it is unlikely that two or more noncoincident loads will be in use simultaneously, using only the largest load(s) that will be used at one time for calculating the total single load that results in the largest total load of a feeder or service shall be permitted. If a motor or air-conditioning load is part of the noncoincident load and is not the largest of the noncoincident loads, 125 percent of either the motor load or air-conditioning load, whichever is larger, shall be used in the calculation.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input

The 2020 and 2023 NEC revisions to this section have added language to cover some of the corner cases with noncoincident loads and load calculations, but the result has not been entirely clear, nor comprehensive. The proposed revision seeks to be both clearer and comprehensive.

If a feeder (or service) supplies two (or more) non-coincident loads A and B, then the load calculation procedure should simply be split: first consider only load A to be present and calculate the total feeder load. Then consider only load B to be present and calculate the total feeder load. Use whichever result is larger.

So that is what the proposed revision says to do. This already covers all combinations of motors loads whether they be the nominal larger or smaller of the noncoincident loads. Indeed, the following pair of examples shows that which of the two loads should be in the final answer can not be determined just by looking at the noncoincident loads in isolation, but only by considering the other feeder loads as well:

Example 1: a feeder supplies only two noncoincident loads, either (A) a 110A non-continuous, non-motor load, or (B) a 100A FLC motor load. For case A, the load is 110A. For case B, the load is 125% * 100A = 125A. Case B controls.

Example 2: in addition to the noncoincident loads A and B in Example 1, the feeder also supplies a 120A FLC motor load. Then for case A, the load is 125% * 120A + 110A = 260A. While for case B, the load is 125% * 120A + 100A = 250A. Now case A controls.

Therefore it is necessary that 220.60 include language that compares the total load for each case, rather than just comparing the individual non-coincident loads.

#### tortuga

##### Code Historian
Looks like this got grouped with other proposals and made it to the next round:

TG 4, FR 14
Committee Statement: Section 220.60 has
been rewritten and restructured to clarify
the determination and treatment of
Requirements regarding the “125 percent of
either the motor load or air‐conditioning
load, whichever is larger” was originally
added to clarify that the value included
application of the motor‐operated and
combination loads as specified in 220.11(A)
(Refer to FR 8062‐NFPA 70‐2018; note that
220.11(A) was 220.18(A) in the 2020 NEC).
Present wording is confusing, so rather than
restate the requirement, the statement is
revised to note that the largest
operated and combination loads as specified
in 220.11(A), thus maintaining the original
intent of the requirement.
List items were added to specify what is
feeders and services maintaining the
are unlikely to be in use simultaneously”,
and a more rigorous requirement applying
to branch‐circuits, since those loads do not
benefit from diversity of multiple loads.
Section 220.60 is also relocated to Article
220, Part I (General), to allow the provision
to apply to load calculation throughout
Article 220, including branch‐circuits in

#### wwhitney

##### Senior Member
Looks like this got grouped with other proposals and made it to the next round:
So do you know how to look up "TG 4 FR 14" or do we have to wait until Jul 10 to see what they came up with?

Cheers, Wayne

#### don_resqcapt19

##### Moderator
Staff member
So do you know how to look up "TG 4 FR 14" or do we have to wait until Jul 10 to see what they came up with?

Cheers, Wayne
You can download a number of documents that will reflect what the code making panels did with the proposal, but keep in mind, that in some cases the panel action was modified by the correlating committee. The documents are found at nfpa.org/70 then click "next edition".
For the input that you are looking for, you would download the Panel 2 ballot and the easiest way to find it would be to search on the section number, 220.60.

The first draft minutes reflect action on all PIs, including the resolved (rejected) ones. The first draft ballot reflects what happened to the Public inputs that received a simple majority vote at the first draft meetings. Only inputs that receive a majority vote at the in person meeting are actually balloted. To become a code change, the input needs at least a 2/3s majority vote on the ballots.

#### wwhitney

##### Senior Member
The documents are found at nfpa.org/70 then click "next edition".
For the input that you are looking for, you would download the Panel 2 ballot and the easiest way to find it would be to search on the section number, 220.60.
Thanks. FWIW, there are 4 files listed there called "First Draft Ballot" for Panel 2; the one with the First Revision text was the one marked "Ballot Final."

So they've come up with the text below for a new section 220.6, to replace 220.60. Seems clear enough, but needs a little tweaking.

Cheers, Wayne

For two or more noncoincident loads, it shall be permitted to use the single largest of these loads in the calculation of the total load. Determination of the largest noncoincident load shall include treatment of any motor-operated and combination loads as specified in 220.11(A). Noncoincident loads shall be considered to be one of the following:
(1) For feeders or services: Two or more loads that are unlikely to be in use simultaneously
(2) For branch-circuits, feeders, or services: Two or more loads that are prevented from being in use simultaneously by listed equipment

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#### wwhitney

##### Senior Member
For two or more noncoincident loads, it shall be permitted to use the single largest of these loads in the calculation of the total load. Determination of the largest noncoincident load shall include treatment of any motor-operated and combination loads as specified in 220.11(A).
Does this second sentence adequately convey that to determine the "largest" of the noncoincident loads you need to consider the context of the other loads in the calculation when applying 220.11(A)?

In the OP I created two examples, where the non-coincident loads are the same, a 110A non-continuous non-motor load and a 100A FLC motor load. Depending on whether the load calculation also includes a larger motor, either the 100A FLC motor load is largest (because with the extra 25%, it contributes 125A) or the 110A non-continuous non-motor load is largest (because with another larger motor in the calculation, the motor only contributes 100A).

Cheers, Wayne

#### don_resqcapt19

##### Moderator
Staff member
Thanks. FWIW, there are 4 files listed there called "First Draft Ballot" for Panel 2; the one with the First Revision text was the one marked "Ballot Final."

So they've come up with the text below for a new section 220.6, to replace 220.60. Seems clear enough, but needs a little tweaking.

Cheers, Wayne

For two or more noncoincident loads, it shall be permitted to use the single largest of these loads in the calculation of the total load. Determination of the largest noncoincident load shall include treatment of any motor-operated and combination loads as specified in 220.11(A). Noncoincident loads shall be considered to be one of the following:
(1) For feeders or services: Two or more loads that are unlikely to be in use simultaneously
(2) For branch-circuits, feeders, or services: Two or more loads that are prevented from being in use simultaneously by listed equipment
The "final ballot" is what you need to look at. As far as the tweaking, you can start that on July 10th, in the way of a Public Comment, but the comment period closes on August 28th.

#### tortuga

##### Code Historian
Does this second sentence adequately convey that to determine the "largest" of the noncoincident loads you need to consider the context of the other loads in the calculation when applying 220.11(A)?

In the OP I created two examples, where the non-coincident loads are the same, a 110A non-continuous non-motor load and a 100A FLC motor load. Depending on whether the load calculation also includes a larger motor, either the 100A FLC motor load is largest (because with the extra 25%, it contributes 125A) or the 110A non-continuous non-motor load is largest (because with another larger motor in the calculation, the motor only contributes 100A).

Cheers, Wayne
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