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Just a quick pole, I think I know the answer but maybe I am way off base. :smile:
Piece Work Poll
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JohnJ0906
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I think that, under certain circumstances, piece work can be good for the employer, and employee.
However, I think under most circumstances it won't work.
However, I think under most circumstances it won't work.
bob,
i didn't vote, because I'm not sure how I really feel about piecework in reality.
I think of piecework a little like Communism...
In theory it's great, but in practice, maybe not so great.
I think that it's ruined by the people who institute it...
I just don't think it's inherently bad. I think it's been distorted by those who use it along the way.
i didn't vote, because I'm not sure how I really feel about piecework in reality.
I think of piecework a little like Communism...
In theory it's great, but in practice, maybe not so great.
I think that it's ruined by the people who institute it...
I just don't think it's inherently bad. I think it's been distorted by those who use it along the way.
bikeindy
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It sounds good to me for some of the work we do. I would love to tell a guy I will pay you X for this service install and I think in most cases he will make more money than his hourly wage. The benefit to me could be that he would finish sooner and I could get him off to a small service call in the afternoon I had a guy who I told I would pay him his 8 hours day wage to get service changes done even if it only took him 5 or 6 hours to do it because he was milking the jobs and I had more work to be done. He still just milked it and took 8 hours to do eventually I fired him for milking me for hours not worked. He could have easily been making 10 or 12 hours worth of pay for 8 hours of work. He was very capable of doing what I hoped for, He wanted a raise but did nothing to warren t it. I don't do track homes so I don't think a regular piece work rate would work for me at all.
peter d
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Piece work could be used for things like roughing and trimming tract homes where there is little or no variation in the tasks involved and there is a large quantity of material to be installed.
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emahler said:
Wow, hell has not just frozen over, it now has a deep layer of permafrost.
I agree with most of what you posted above.
Thank you for your candor.
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peter d said:
Of course it could be used.
But to me the question is should it be used?
How will effect moral?
Will the employee look at the job as 'just a job' or will they feel it could be a career?
ty
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Bob,
for me it's more about quality, not morale.
for me it's more about quality, not morale.
andinator
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peter d said:
This is the most succinct and accurate post in this whole great debate. Tract homes can be 1100 sq. ft. and trashy or 4000 sq. ft. and half a million dollars. The key is universal plans. Say 10 to 12 home plans for a thousand home development. THATS how piecing houses works for the employer and employee
mkgrady
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I think it is considered by employers that don't have what they want. They want good employees that do high quality work in an effecient manner while making the customer feel good about the end result. When employers institute piece work they get the exact opposite of what they desire. Seems to me they get employees that are in a bib hurry, maybe making mistakes, or working in an unsafe manner, and make the customer feel like production is more important than quality.
JohnJ0906
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andinator said:
True, but only to a point.
Will the house be IN THE SAME CONDITION each time? Other trades? Clean or cluttered? Makes a big difference if I'm working around others or not, or if I have to clean up before I start.
JohnJ0906
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ITO said:
Who's whining?
I'm also not an EC, so our point of view will be different, won't it?
I'm looking at it from the point of view of an employee.
JohnJ0906 said:Who's whining?
I'm also not an EC, so our point of view will be different, won't it?
I'm looking at it from the point of view of an employee.
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JohnJ0906 said:
It was a light hearted jest don't take it personally.
Also keep in mind the status of employee and contractor becomes blurry once you take a piece work deal, which was the point I was trying to make.
JohnJ0906
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True. Also, I suppose that is something that would be taken into account during estimating a job, I suppose.
sheldon_ace
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hourly employee, who feels like a piece worker
hourly employee, who feels like a piece worker
My company pays extremely well. We make the same prevailing wage, both in the check, and fringe on public and private jobs. We bust a$$. Most days I feel my employer holds our wage over our heads. They claim quality is best, but sometimes it is speed that counts. it gets frustrating. It always makes you second guess
hourly employee, who feels like a piece worker
My company pays extremely well. We make the same prevailing wage, both in the check, and fringe on public and private jobs. We bust a$$. Most days I feel my employer holds our wage over our heads. They claim quality is best, but sometimes it is speed that counts. it gets frustrating. It always makes you second guess
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