PIN Insulator Changed for Polymer Surge Arrestor

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I am converting from an aeiral distributed, pad mounted, three phase, 300KVA, 12.4KV primary, 208/120 volt transformer bank system (which uses three, single phase, 100KVA, 240/120 volt transformers in a bank) to a 300KVA, 3 phase, 12.4KV, 208/120 volt pad mounted transformer.

My present transformer bank uses PIN insulators between where the overhead primary meets with the primary terminals of the existing transformer bank cosisting of single phase transformers at 100KVA. The secondary of each of these transformers in the transformer bank goes overhead also.

In my design for the new underground fed primary and partially underground distributed secondary pad mounted transformer at 300KVA, I am installing surge protectors where the underground primary meets with the overhead primary above the utility pole at the drip loop.

The reason I am using the expensive surge protectors for the primary feeding the new transformer is that this is the design that I have seen used for this type of installation before.

My concern is that PIN insulators were used for the existing single phase transformer bank which makes up the 3 phase power delivery system to the respective facilty.

Do PIN insulators used on the old design perform essentially the same function as the surge protectors (spike arrestors/suppressors) I am using for the new design??

It seems to me that an insulator suppresses a voltage spike of more than one cycle just like the surge arrestor??
 
Re: PIN Insulator Changed for Polymer Surge Arrestor

I buffaloed myself on this one.

The overhead primary cables come in to a pin insulator for each phase and exit a pin insulator for each phase. There are no more cables involved connecting to the pin insulator I found by observation. The pin insulator keeps the 3 phase cables from arcing towards one another I believe or getting an arc from another metal object located nearby.

There are no surge arrestors mounted above a utility pole I found out by observation, just cut-outs and lighting arrestors and the termination device to connect the stinger to the cable which traverses down the riser to go underground I found by observation.

TVSS surge arrestors are commonly found in the mechanical rooms where the service entrance to the facilities are located I have learned through observation.
 
Re: PIN Insulator Changed for Polymer Surge Arrestor

You can't go into or out of a pin insulator. They are gobs of porcelain that sit on top of a crossarm pin, or poletop pin for example. The wires rest on top of them.

You must be referring to something besides a pin insulator.

In distribution utility jargon, surge arresters and lightning arresters are the same thing. Again, I am confused about what you are talking about.

The cutouts on the riser pole should have lightning/surge arresters for protection. In my recent post to you, I mentioned that MOV arresters are much more common than in the past, and am wondering if you are confusing the two different types of arrester technology?

Jim T
 
Re: PIN Insulator Changed for Polymer Surge Arrestor

I think I see what you are saying now. I have noticed different types of surge arrestors/lighting arrestors on top of the utility poles. Some are smaller than the others. Maybe the MOV surge arrestors with the arc gap are found commonly on top of the utility poles as are other types of surge arrestors and the TVSS surge arrestors are found in the mech room of the buildings-just a hunch.

Referencing the other note, I believe it was pin insulators I saw. I was on the ground looking at the top of a utility pole. The individual primary cables probably did not enter the pin insulator and may have rested on top of them. I could not tell from the ground and will need to check it out again. I really need to take my binoculars to work and will try to remember to do that tomorrow.
 
Re: PIN Insulator Changed for Polymer Surge Arrestor

The utility primary cables are generally attached to an insulator or switch or knife-blade cutout that provides mechanical support for the connection. The surge arrester is next to the device and connected to the primary wire or cable with a short wire lead. The arrester should not be used as a mechanical support. You can add arresters at the overhead-to-underground connection or, in a loop-feed padmount transformer, to unused deadfront bushings.
 
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