piped for grid, and they rocked it.

[brantmacga]

office addition; we piped it in EMT for a grid ceiling, per plans.

they decided to sheetrock it after we finished.



first pic; GC missed on the plans where it said the bottom of the floor joists for the second level was supposed to have a fire barrier. Those squares are pieces they cut to cover our j-boxes. we had already left whips out for everything. this area will have grid ceiling.

second pic; looking down a hallway that was supposed to be grid. they put up drywall and boxed out holes for the 2x4 lay-ins. you can see a whip in the hole. all of the offices and hallways are like this. that pic above of the hallway, and the conference room are the only areas that still get acoustical tiles. i hope to God we don't have to do any troubleshooting. The j-boxes are about 10 inches above this ceiling, face down. in the offices and hallways, the j-boxes are split between the openings where 6' whips will reach each fixture. not easy access.

last pic; this is going up a stairwell. was supposed to be drywall from the beginning. apparently, they decided to drop the ceiling from the joists that were in place.

i'm curious what the inspector will think of all this.

 

[kwired]

office addition; we piped it in EMT for a grid ceiling, per plans.

they decided to sheetrock it after we finished.



first pic; GC missed on the plans where it said the bottom of the floor joists for the second level was supposed to have a fire barrier. Those squares are pieces they cut to cover our j-boxes. we had already left whips out for everything. this area will have grid ceiling.

second pic; looking down a hallway that was supposed to be grid. they put up drywall and boxed out holes for the 2x4 lay-ins. you can see a whip in the hole. all of the offices and hallways are like this. that pic above of the hallway, and the conference room are the only areas that still get acoustical tiles. i hope to God we don't have to do any troubleshooting. The j-boxes are about 10 inches above this ceiling, face down. in the offices and hallways, the j-boxes are split between the openings where 6' whips will reach each fixture. not easy access.

last pic; this is going up a stairwell. was supposed to be drywall from the beginning. apparently, they decided to drop the ceiling from the joists that were in place.

i'm curious what the inspector will think of all this.

First pic - apparently you also missed on the plans where it said the bottom of the floor joists for the second level was supposed to have a fire barrier.

Last 2 pics - you need to give them a change order - may want to discuss what is wrong with them and present multiple possibilities of how it may be corrected and base the change order off that discussion, or you could just be a jerk and start busting drywall to get to your equipment.

 

[brantmacga]

First pic - apparently you also missed on the plans where it said the bottom of the floor joists for the second level was supposed to have a fire barrier.

not on the e-sheets, not my problem. GC said they were ready to rough.

Last 2 pics - you need to give them a change order - may want to discuss what is wrong with them and present multiple possibilities of how it may be corrected and base the change order off that discussion, or you could just be a jerk and start busting drywall to get to your equipment.

we're making adjustments for the extra labor to install fixtures. other than that, unless there is a problem with the inspector we have no issue with it.

as for that recessed box, something does have to be done about that.

i just thought it was funny.

 

[kwired]

not on the e-sheets, not my problem. GC said they were ready to rough.



we're making adjustments for the extra labor to install fixtures. other than that, unless there is a problem with the inspector we have no issue with it.

as for that recessed box, something does have to be done about that.

i just thought it was funny.

Are they putting in a wall angle so that you can still use troffers or do you have to get flanged fixtures? And do you already have fixures, or are able to change to flanged fixtures. What about fire barrier ceiling where these fixtures are to be? Just asking. Will fire inspector approve the sheet rock covers over the boxes or will he want them taped making them inaccessible according to electrical code?

 

[brantmacga]

Are they putting in a wall angle so that you can still use troffers or do you have to get flanged fixtures? And do you already have fixures, or are able to change to flanged fixtures. What about fire barrier ceiling where these fixtures are to be? Just asking. Will fire inspector approve the sheet rock covers over the boxes or will he want them taped making them inaccessible according to electrical code?

had to changed to flanged fixtures. as far as costs, all that has been adjusted.


as for the panels; i believe they are supposed to be fire caulked, which would make them inaccesible. once the lights are in, everything is going to be inaccessible without removing fixtures.

its going to be a God awful mess; but its a small town. if the inspector hasn't said anything by now, i doubt he will. they were supposed to come today or tomorrow for a temp power inspection.

its going to be one hell of a bill though if anything in the system we've installed has to be modified.

 

[kwired]

had to changed to flanged fixtures. as far as costs, all that has been adjusted.


as for the panels; i believe they are supposed to be fire caulked, which would make them inaccesible. once the lights are in, everything is going to be inaccessible without removing fixtures.

its going to be a God awful mess; but its a small town. if the inspector hasn't said anything by now, i doubt he will. they were supposed to come today or tomorrow for a temp power inspection.

its going to be one hell of a bill though if anything in the system we've installed has to be modified.

You are that far into the project and are just getting a temp power inspection?

Isn't it about time to remove any temp power or make it permanent?

Around here if the temp power is actually a service, POCO will not energize it until it is inspected and approved.

 

[ptonsparky]

Temp power inspected pretty quick and no connection until it does.

What a mess.

 

[brantmacga]

You are that far into the project and are just getting a temp power inspection?

Isn't it about time to remove any temp power or make it permanent?

Around here if the temp power is actually a service, POCO will not energize it until it is inspected and approved.

temp power (connection to service) is only good for 30 days, at which point you must get a final or get disconnected (this excludes temp pole outside). and of course you can't get a final on a building that isn't finished.


this is the local POCO's office we're working on anyhow; i doubt they'll disconnect it but we're just now at the stage you'd typically call for it.

 

[LarryFine]

i'm curious what the inspector will think of all this.

Please share!

 

[wirenut601]

lovely

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not all to for sure from a picture but the framed out light boxes look a little un square

 

[cowboyjwc]

I can't see the pics for some reason, but if the sheet rock is going up as a fire barrier then you shouldn't be putting recessed lights in the ceiling.

 

[brantmacga]

I can't see the pics for some reason, but if the sheet rock is going up as a fire barrier then you shouldn't be putting recessed lights in the ceiling.

there is a drywall fire barrier above the drywall ceiling w/ the recessed troffers.


but i was told today the architect wants all of them sealed, as in putting drywall on top of the recessed box and caulking it. said he wants it "air tight". i have no clue how they plan on making this happen between floors. but they've already cut all of the pieces to go above the troffers.

but there is a huge conference room w/ a grid ceiling, and part of a hallway w/ grid ceiling, and a slew of prescolite recessed fluorescent cans. so i don't understand why they should be sealing any of them.

 

[cowboyjwc]

there is a drywall fire barrier above the drywall ceiling w/ the recessed troffers.


but i was told today the architect wants all of them sealed, as in putting drywall on top of the recessed box and caulking it. said he wants it "air tight". i have no clue how they plan on making this happen between floors. but they've already cut all of the pieces to go above the troffers.

but there is a huge conference room w/ a grid ceiling, and part of a hallway w/ grid ceiling, and a slew of prescolite recessed fluorescent cans. so i don't understand why they should be sealing any of them.

Got it. He must be pulling something out of the energy code. We require it here in CA (conditioned to nonconditioned space).

 

[russ]

I don't see how this could pass code, with the boxes being covered by drywall.
Looks like their hiding J boxes.

 

[brantmacga]

I don't see how this could pass code, with the boxes being covered by drywall.
Looks like their hiding J boxes.

it should not pass.

inspector is coming tomorrow. I don't believe any of this work had been done when the rough inspection passed.

 

[brantmacga]

it passed.

power connected this afternoon.