Plastic Water Pipe

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My cousin is building a new house in new jersey. I was helping him do the service for the house. And notice that the water pipe coming in from the town is plastic, but then it is hook to a fitting and the rest of the house is done in copper. Do I bond this the same way, normally i bond the first eight inches and jump out the water meter
 
jm1470 said:
My cousin is building a new house in new jersey. I was helping him do the service for the house. And notice that the water pipe coming in from the town is plastic, but then it is hook to a fitting and the rest of the house is done in copper. Do I bond this the same way, normally i bond the first eight inches and jump out the water meter
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No because it cannot be the electrode unless it meets all the cirteria of 250-52(A)(1) & 250-52(D) but you do have to bond it as per 250-104(A). You will need to install an electrode though as per 250-52.
 
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jm1470 said:
My cousin is building a new house in new jersey. I was helping him do the service for the house. And notice that the water pipe coming in from the town is plastic, but then it is hook to a fitting and the rest of the house is done in copper. Do I bond this the same way, normally i bond the first eight inches and jump out the water meter
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You didn't mention anything about the UFER electrode. Scope that out first and then if there is none, install electrodes per 250.52(A)(5). Then bonding to the Cu plumbing is compliant. rbj
 
Yes, you bond the water pipe exactly like you normally would with the exception being no need to jump the meter obviously.

As for your ge and gec since you didn't mention that we should assume you have that part covered.
 
electricmanscott said:
Yes, you bond the water pipe exactly like you normally would with the exception being no need to jump the meter obviously.

As for your ge and gec since you didn't mention that we should assume you have that part covered.
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I wouldn't use the word exactly. The bonding connection is not required to be within 5' of where the pipe enters the house.
 
infinity said:
I wouldn't use the word exactly. The bonding connection is not required to be within 5' of where the pipe enters the house.
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Barring local amendment.

We often bond at the entrance anyway, because it is easier for the inspector to find, and it is often the closest point to the service anyway.
 
I got red tag for bonding the pipes close to the panel. The problem was the inspector thought I had to bond within 5' of where it enetered the building. I nice explained that was only true if there was metal pipe coming in the building not plastic.

Around here copper is rarely used anymore esp. with the cost so high.

I just took 500 ponds of mostly nm cable in my pickup to the salvage yard and I got $800. It's up to $1.60 a lb around here for unstripped copper.
 
To be honest, I can't even remember the last time I have seen copper water pipes in a (new) house. It's all cpvc these days.

At least the plumbers don't have to worry about the sleazeballs ripping out the pipes after they get my wires... :mad:
 
JohnJ0906 said:
Barring local amendment.

We often bond at the entrance anyway, because it is easier for the inspector to find, and it is often the closest point to the service anyway.
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I learned this requirement the hard way. Did a service upgrade a few years ago with a well and plastic water pipe. So I asked the inspector where he wanted the water pipe bond. He told me bond it like a normal metal pipe within 5' of the emergence through the foundation wall. So instead of running 4' to the nearest pipe I ran 90 or so feet to the other end of the house. Thinking that something was wrong I came here and posted a question. A few of the regulars here were quick to point out that the inspector was wrong and that I was a dummy for listening to him.

Local requirements aside, the bond need not be near the entrance of the water pipe into the structure.
 
iwire said:
What part of the question are you saying no to?
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I understand jm1470's question to include using this water pipe as an electroded, I am saying no to this in his situation because it does not comply.
 
Dennis Alwon said:
...I just took 500 ponds of mostly nm cable in my pickup to the salvage yard and I got $800. It's up to $1.60 a lb around here for unstripped copper.
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I wonder if 5' of 12-2 is 1 pound then 1.60/5 = .32 cents a foot!
 
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