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jim dungar said:
I don't think I have seen these since the days of 25 pair phone cable.
Didn't "RJ" connectors become standard about 20-30 years ago?
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Really. I mean, who would do that now? Assuming this is a medical facility, I would think there is a modern phone system based on Ethernet at the very least (assuming wireless is out because of security).
 
Jraef said:
Really. I mean, who would do that now? Assuming this is a medical facility, I would think there is a modern phone system based on Ethernet at the very least (assuming wireless is out because of security).
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Probably standard language in specs that no one has taken ownership of since it was first written decades ago.
 
jim dungar said:
Probably standard language in specs that no one has taken ownership of since it was first written decades ago.
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Undoubtedly.

I came across a spec last year calling for all terminal block connections to be done with ring tongue terminals. You can still buy that type of TB, but there were 300+ terminal blocks and holy moly that was going to take up a lot of room. The CE turned out to have copied an old spec from the Bureau of Reclamation for the original pumping equipment that has been installed in 1943.
 
A standard keystone jack is 5/8" wide. It's a little smaller in height - not quite square. But, bushed? Where'd that come from? I can't imagine that was ever a standard size (round) bushing.
 
I hate lazy engineers who just copy and paste decades old junk. I was looking at some new electrical drawings today that used MCM for conductor sizing.
 
Jraef said:
Really. I mean, who would do that now? Assuming this is a medical facility, I would think there is a modern phone system based on Ethernet at the very least (assuming wireless is out because of security).
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Odds are there are no 'telephone outlets' on the plans. Aren't most communications now handled as VOIP through the IT department?
 
jim dungar said:
Probably standard language in specs that no one has taken ownership of since it was first written decades ago.
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A reply I made to another post many moons ago. Whatever item is under discussion, the theme remains the same.

In the Beginning was The Project, and The Project had The Spec.
The Spec was with The Senior Engineer,
And The Senior Engineer saw that it was Good.
All Proper Things were in The Spec, and there was nothing
Outside The Spec that was Proper.
And The Spec said, "Thy ground ring conductor shall be 2/0,
and no size smaller shall be Proper."
And so it was, and it was Good.

It came to pass that a Junior Engineer was tasked with Another Project,
And he strove mightily against The Deadline.
In his despair, he cried out to The Senior Engineer;
"The EC's are rebellious! Lo, they clamor for Knowledge
on every detail and I am sore pressed to answer them!"
And The Senior Engineer said; "Fear not! For see, I have The Spec,
and herein shall you find what you seek."
And doubt entered the heart of The Junior Engineer, and he said;
"Is this not The Spec from another Project? Will it suffice?"
And The Senior Engineer said; "Well mayest thou calculate every
Trivial Quantity and watch thy Project Manhours flow like a river
in flood and thy Profit Margin dwindle away. Or takest thou
The Spec and brandish it before the rabble."
And The Junior Engineer said; "Meh, good enough."

And so The Spec became The Boilerplate, and was handed down
from The Senior Engineer to The Junior Engineer, and when The Junior
Engineer passed to Senior status, so did he likewise pass it to
the next generation. And so it has been, and so shall it be,
until the end of Time.
 
The Gospel According to Gadfly

gadfly56 said:
In the Beginning was The Project, and The Project had The Spec.
The Spec was with The Senior Engineer,
And The Senior Engineer saw that it was Good.
All Proper Things were in The Spec, and there was nothing
Outside The Spec that was Proper.
And The Spec said, "Thy ground ring conductor shall be 2/0,
and no size smaller shall be Proper."
And so it was, and it was Good.

It came to pass that a Junior Engineer was tasked with Another Project,
And he strove mightily against The Deadline.
In his despair, he cried out to The Senior Engineer;
"The EC's are rebellious! Lo, they clamor for Knowledge
on every detail and I am sore pressed to answer them!"
And The Senior Engineer said; "Fear not! For see, I have The Spec,
and herein shall you find what you seek."
And doubt entered the heart of The Junior Engineer, and he said;
"Is this not The Spec from another Project? Will it suffice?"
And The Senior Engineer said; "Well mayest thou calculate every
Trivial Quantity and watch thy Project Manhours flow like a river
in flood and thy Profit Margin dwindle away. Or takest thou
The Spec and brandish it before the rabble."
And The Junior Engineer said; "Meh, good enough."

And so The Spec became The Boilerplate, and was handed down
from The Senior Engineer to The Junior Engineer, and when The Junior
Engineer passed to Senior status, so did he likewise pass it to
the next generation. And so it has been, and so shall it be,
until the end of Time.
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