starsandstripes
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I've heard that plug-in air fresheners have been the cause of some electrical fires. Has anyone else had experience with this or know of any documentation on this subject?
plug-in air fresheners
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pierre
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Re: plug-in air fresheners
Bob
How long ago did you buy stock in the company?
Bob
How long ago did you buy stock in the company?
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You would be surprised what they will pay for a good shill.Originally posted by pierre:
Bob
How long ago did you buy stock in the company?
TOMWELDS
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Were they the plugins with the outlet? Electric heater plugged in?..LOL
Were they the plugins with the outlet? Electric heater plugged in?..LOL
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Tom, eveytime I see that ad on TV thats the first thing I think of....somewhere, sombody is going to plug an electric heater into that critter........guess the freshner would work superwell for a short while, maybe even offset some of the smoke smell
Tom, eveytime I see that ad on TV thats the first thing I think of....somewhere, sombody is going to plug an electric heater into that critter........guess the freshner would work superwell for a short while, maybe even offset some of the smoke smell
james wuebker
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Well my nephew is a fire fighter and he has told me that the plug in air freshners are a fire hazard. He told me 25% of the fires today are caused by either a nite light or plug in freshners.
Bye now,
Jim
Well my nephew is a fire fighter and he has told me that the plug in air freshners are a fire hazard. He told me 25% of the fires today are caused by either a nite light or plug in freshners.
Bye now,
Jim
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Well as long as Jim's nephew said so it must be a fact.
james wuebker
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iwire, Were electrician's and I believe fire fighters know alittle more about this than we do. You must have stock in air frestners market.
Jim
iwire, Were electrician's and I believe fire fighters know alittle more about this than we do. You must have stock in air frestners market.
Jim
ryan_618
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I have a hard time thinking that a product that is responsible for 25% of the fires in dwelings is going to be listed by UL.
Like Bob, I don't buy it.
I have a hard time thinking that a product that is responsible for 25% of the fires in dwelings is going to be listed by UL.
Like Bob, I don't buy it.
james wuebker
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Ryan, After thinking about it I don't agree on the 25% which includes nite nights and air freshners. My point is they do cause fires.
Jim
Ryan, After thinking about it I don't agree on the 25% which includes nite nights and air freshners. My point is they do cause fires.
Jim
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bthielen
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So do wires, circuit breakers, light fixtures, etc. Before we go off the deep end and declare that a device is a fire hazard, we must decide to what extent, because basically just about anything can be declared a fire hazard, if we consider even the most remote possibilities. So, do these devices pose a serious increased risk?
Bob
So do wires, circuit breakers, light fixtures, etc. Before we go off the deep end and declare that a device is a fire hazard, we must decide to what extent, because basically just about anything can be declared a fire hazard, if we consider even the most remote possibilities. So, do these devices pose a serious increased risk?
Bob
gvmv
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When you have something like this you can always check snopes.com. Especially for most of the "urban myths" that surface.
http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/household/glade.asp
Doesn't say yes or no but gives more info.
When you have something like this you can always check snopes.com. Especially for most of the "urban myths" that surface.
http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/household/glade.asp
Doesn't say yes or no but gives more info.
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Fire investigators are sometimes very quick to put blame. I saw a program once where a convenience store had burned. The fire investigators determined that it was due to "faulty wiring" and even determined the circuit that had "caused" the fire. It was only when someone reviewed the security video tape that it was learned that the last thing the clerk did before closing for the night was to empty the ash tray into the trash can! Trash caught fire and started the blaze. I was personally involved in a case where the insurance investigator determined that a fire had been caused by a "defective baseboard heater" which my company had installed. Fortunately the fire Marshall did his own investigation and determined that the fire was caused by the homeowner installing paneling using 10-penny nails that had pierced the wiring in several locations. Since then, I am very sceptical of reports of electrical fires. It seems that unless there is a gas can and book of matches discovered on the scene, all fires are electrical. There is usually no explanation as to what caused the electrical fire; poor installation, defective materials, homeowner modification, misuse, or whatever else. It is usually assumed by the public that some electrician messed up.
Fire investigators are sometimes very quick to put blame. I saw a program once where a convenience store had burned. The fire investigators determined that it was due to "faulty wiring" and even determined the circuit that had "caused" the fire. It was only when someone reviewed the security video tape that it was learned that the last thing the clerk did before closing for the night was to empty the ash tray into the trash can! Trash caught fire and started the blaze. I was personally involved in a case where the insurance investigator determined that a fire had been caused by a "defective baseboard heater" which my company had installed. Fortunately the fire Marshall did his own investigation and determined that the fire was caused by the homeowner installing paneling using 10-penny nails that had pierced the wiring in several locations. Since then, I am very sceptical of reports of electrical fires. It seems that unless there is a gas can and book of matches discovered on the scene, all fires are electrical. There is usually no explanation as to what caused the electrical fire; poor installation, defective materials, homeowner modification, misuse, or whatever else. It is usually assumed by the public that some electrician messed up.
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I believe thats the same situation in most areas.
We've had electrical fires on houses with no service drop
One fire investigator made the statement "since we found no other cause of the fire, it must have been electrical"
I believe thats the same situation in most areas.
We've had electrical fires on houses with no service drop
One fire investigator made the statement "since we found no other cause of the fire, it must have been electrical"
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Re: plug-in air fresheners
From the works of Sir Arthur Conan Doyle:
From the works of Sir Arthur Conan Doyle:
The problem here is that the investigators did not do a good enough job of eliminating the impossible.
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i agree with hask. I think they are just making it look like they are working. i doubt that there is any real effort except to find someone to blame. I would assume a suspicious death might get very serious, but even then, the mere presence of an accelerant seems to indicate arson.
I always have a hard time accepting the authoritative approach to multiple possibilities, The Authority (fire, police, paid experts, etc) usually has a job to protect, a political agenda, and ties to someone who has something to gain from the decision.
I have never met anyone with their finger in the pie with any objectivity.
Finding someone who can actually be objective, will be objective, has the knowledge to be authoritative, is willing to use that knowledge, has access to all the info, and is the unaltered explainer of the cause, creates quite a few areas for something to go wrong with the fingerpointing.
i will maintain a peacefull but dubious outlook upon the claims to insider info, authority, and even to superior reasoning when it pertains to causes and consequences, especially relating to disasters.
paul
i agree with hask. I think they are just making it look like they are working. i doubt that there is any real effort except to find someone to blame. I would assume a suspicious death might get very serious, but even then, the mere presence of an accelerant seems to indicate arson.
I always have a hard time accepting the authoritative approach to multiple possibilities, The Authority (fire, police, paid experts, etc) usually has a job to protect, a political agenda, and ties to someone who has something to gain from the decision.
I have never met anyone with their finger in the pie with any objectivity.
Finding someone who can actually be objective, will be objective, has the knowledge to be authoritative, is willing to use that knowledge, has access to all the info, and is the unaltered explainer of the cause, creates quite a few areas for something to go wrong with the fingerpointing.
i will maintain a peacefull but dubious outlook upon the claims to insider info, authority, and even to superior reasoning when it pertains to causes and consequences, especially relating to disasters.
paul
jimwalker
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Re: plug-in air fresheners
"He told me 25% of the fires today are caused by either a nite light or plug in freshners.
Bye now,"
Just think if we outlaw these 2 items our insurance will drop to 75%.Irather dought that
25 % of all the homes even have 1 of them plug in night lights or air freshners.But then when we can call it electrical fire without even haveing service then why not.
"He told me 25% of the fires today are caused by either a nite light or plug in freshners.
Bye now,"
Just think if we outlaw these 2 items our insurance will drop to 75%.Irather dought that
25 % of all the homes even have 1 of them plug in night lights or air freshners.But then when we can call it electrical fire without even haveing service then why not.
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