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Coachmike

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Location
Morris County, NJ
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Electrical Contractor
We have a 2000-amp service on an assisted living facility. We are installing a 500KW genset and 2000-amp ATS on the outside of the facility. The existing service is fed by 4- 4" parallel PVC UG conduits with 4- 750 MCM CU conductors. There is an existing spare/ empty 4" conduit that we would like to run our new EGC in. The AHJ is requiring a full size EGC- 250 CU in each of the 4 existing feeders. We would like to pull one full 250 CU in the spare, empty, parallel conduit or at the very least decrease the size of the ground wire for parallel circuits. Is this acceptable?
 

infinity

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Location
New Jersey
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Journeyman Electrician
The EGC has to be full sized in each parallel raceway. As Augie stated you cannot run a single EGC in the empty conduit.
 

Coachmike

Senior Member
Location
Morris County, NJ
Occupation
Electrical Contractor
UGH. Thanks everyone for the disappointing confirmation.
But can anyone explain the logic by requiring the fault current capacity of four parallel grounds to not be reduced. Yet the current carrying conductors are additive? 250 MCM CU is rated for 2000 amps. Why would 8000-amps of protection be necessary?
 

tom baker

First Chief Moderator & NEC Expert
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Location
Bremerton, Washington
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Master Electrician
Because in a parallel conductors fault current can be fed from each end, and the egc must be close to the ungrounded conductors (reduces impedance)
This rule comes up frequently here
 

don_resqcapt19

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Location
Illinois
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retired electrician
UGH. Thanks everyone for the disappointing confirmation.
But can anyone explain the logic by requiring the fault current capacity of four parallel grounds to not be reduced. Yet the current carrying conductors are additive? 250 MCM CU is rated for 2000 amps. Why would 8000-amps of protection be necessary?
The First Draft Report for the 2026 NEC, shows new language in 250.122(F) that will say that with parallel conduits the EGC will not have to be larger than the largest ungrounded conductor in the conduit.

There are a number of Public Comments to delete this. The substantiations for these Public Comments have some detailed technical information as to why a full sized EGC is required in each of the parallel raceways.

You can go to nfpa.org/70, click on "next edition" and then click on "view public comments" to read these technical substantiations.
 
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