I have seen pool bonding clamps listed for direct burial in earth/concrete and use with rebar to connect #8 tail to pool structure. But I have not seen any hardware listed for direct burial to join two #8 bonding wires. Is just a plain brass split bolt acceptable for code, or is there some special part required by code for splicing #8 tails from lights/pool onto main #8 loop?
Pool bonding clamps
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Is there rebar in the concrete or just a slab? I am sure that some brass split bolts are listed however if you can't find one then use the acorn clamps that are listed and cut a short piece of rebar as a connector.
Thanks for the reply. I prefer to find an appropriate connector to tie two #8's together directly instead of using a piece of rebar as a connector... I will have 5-6 pig tails coming from the pool structure and light niche's that will be installed at pool build time, and will need to tie that to the main #8 loop around the pool that goes to the pad. Is it customary to install that loop before the gunite is shot? I was going to only install the tails before gunite, then once the pool is backfilled, install the loop and tie to tails. Seems to me the loop wuold only get in the way or get damaged if installed before gunite. Is it normally done differently? ANy pointers on a connector listed for direct burial #8 to #8 connection would be greatly appreciated.
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I would avoid connectors and make it continuous if I could. We have done that a few times that way
I agree that continuous would be better... but I am not clear on how that happens logistically... I need the #8 loop to be at a certain depth after back fill... and certain distance from pool... so how can you put that in before the gunite and not have it damaged and ensure it gets in the right place. I don't see how that happens before the gunite is shot. Can someone help me understand how this is best done?
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I guess with todays economy the copper would get gone not damaged. The pools I have done were nonconductive pools with fiber optic lights so no epb needed. Generally the pool company does the bonding while they build it so I guess they can easily accommodate the bonding being continuous.
You could have the pool area go back to the pump area and then add the perimeter bond tying them together above ground at the pool pump.
You could have the pool area go back to the pump area and then add the perimeter bond tying them together above ground at the pool pump.
curt swartz
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Ilsco's standard copper split bolts are listed for direct burial through 500. I think most other manufactures are too.
http://www.ilsco.com//TechnicalDrawing//K0256-K0269.pdf
http://www.ilsco.com//TechnicalDrawing//K0256-K0269.pdf
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