Pool Bonding

[augie47]

('08 Code) Above ground pool, metal frame, less than 42" of water.
Any equopotential bonding needed ?

 

[Dennis Alwon]

('08 Code) Above ground pool, metal frame, less than 42" of water.
Any equopotential bonding needed ?

You're the inspector. :grin: I say no bonding necessary

 

[Dennis Alwon]

I probably should substantiate my statement. Less than 42" is considered a storable pool.

Storable Swimming, Wading, or Immersion Pool. Those that are constructed on or above the ground and are capable of holding water to a maximum depth of 1.0 m (42 in.), or a pool with nonmetallic, molded polymeric walls or inflatable fabric walls regardless of dimension.

III. Storable Pools
680.30 General.
Electrical installations at storable pools shall comply with the provisions of Part I and Part III of this article.

Nothing in these article mentions EPB

 

[C3PO]

Since it has a metal frame, is it still considered storable????

 

[Dennis Alwon]

Since it has a metal frame, is it still considered storable????

Where does the definition state that. There is no mention of what the pool is made of in the first part.

Those that are constructed on or above the ground and are capable of holding water to a maximum depth of 1.0 m (42 in.),

OR

a pool with nonmetallic, molded polymeric walls or inflatable fabric walls regardless of dimension.

 

[C3PO]

Where does the definition state that. There is no mention of what the pool is made of in the first part.

You are right, I was looking at the second part.

 

[augie47]

You're the inspector. :grin:

and yet some people want to disagree with my call :smile: amazing, isn't it ?
sometimes a question is posting simply to allow others to see I'm not alone :smile:

 

[don_resqcapt19]

From a code stand point, the bonding is not required, but from a safety stand point, why isn't it required? The code rule should be based on something other than the wall height. If you have two pools with identical electrical equipment and one with a wall of 36" and the other with a wall of 48", is there really any difference in the possible safety issues with the two pools?

 

[Dennis Alwon]

From a code stand point, the bonding is not required, but from a safety stand point, why isn't it required? The code rule should be based on something other than the wall height. If you have two pools with identical electrical equipment and one with a wall of 36" and the other with a wall of 48", is there really any difference in the possible safety issues with the two pools?

I totally agree with you. It would appear that there is danger with any type of pool with power to it. I always wondered why the NEC didn't address it-- probably because the small pools are erected by homeowners and it would never get done anyway.

 

[electricmanscott]

I would guess it's because for the most part those smaller pools are usually non metallic and not permanently installed.

 

[hurk27]

From a code stand point, the bonding is not required, but from a safety stand point, why isn't it required? The code rule should be based on something other than the wall height. If you have two pools with identical electrical equipment and one with a wall of 36" and the other with a wall of 48", is there really any difference in the possible safety issues with the two pools?

Electrons don't like shallow water?

Well with portable pools, pumps are cord and plug connected, GFCI protected, permanent pools can have hard wired pumps not GFCI protected?

hardware like ladders and stuff are plastic with portable pools, and almost all portable pools have a liner or some other insulated type water holding shell.

permanent pools it is common to have metal ladders, concrete decks, and other conductive components.