Pool House Wiring

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I was called to a new house to look at the pool house wiring and the electrican has the electric panel with in 6" of a shower unit. There are no GFI recept.s or breakers in the bath area of the pool house. The pool pump,lights,and recpts. around the pool area have no GFI protection. I suggested that all breakers be changed to GFI style and to build a wood enclosure around the panel by the shower. What do you think? This is outside of the City inspection service area. I toured the home which cost 1.4 million dollars and noticed all kinds of code infractions. Electrical panels in clothes closets, no GFI protection any where,any many others. I feel sorry for the home owners,.
 
I guess one could argue that the pool house is not a dwelling (It isn't) and art. 240.24(E) will permit a panel in the bathroom. The distance from the shower is not discussed. Bad idea probably but it is code compliant IMO.
 
Dennis Alwon said:
I guess one could argue that the pool house is not a dwelling (It isn't) and art. 240.24(E) will permit a panel in the bathroom. The distance from the shower is not discussed. Bad idea probably but it is code compliant IMO.
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I have to disagree with you on this, sort of. Many pool houses around here have all the items to make them a dwelling unit, kitchen,laundry, bath room , and sleeping area. I have worked in some pool houses that are bigger and nicer then most single family homes,one off the local towns had an ordinance that no one can stay in a pool house for more then 30 day's, to discourage renting them out.
But I also agree with you if there is no "sleeping area" it could be looked at differently.
 
acrwc10 said:
I have to disagree with you on this, sort of. Many pool houses around here have all the items to make them a dwelling unit, kitchen,laundry, bath room , and sleeping area. I have worked in some pool houses that are bigger and nicer then most single family homes,one off the local towns had an ordinance that no one can stay in a pool house for more then 30 day's, to discourage renting them out.
But I also agree with you if there is no "sleeping area" it could be looked at differently.
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Sure if there is a sleeping area that changes the concept but I didn't get that info from the OP-- pool house not pool house/dwelling. However, legal or not, I still think it is a bad design to have a panel in a bath area esp. where there will be lots of moisture.
 
acrwc10 said:
I have to disagree with you on this, sort of. Many pool houses around here have all the items to make them a dwelling unit, kitchen,laundry, bath room , and sleeping area. I have worked in some pool houses that are bigger and nicer then most single family homes,one off the local towns had an ordinance that no one can stay in a pool house for more then 30 day's, to discourage renting them out.
But I also agree with you if there is no "sleeping area" it could be looked at differently.
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I would think that this is a dwelling unit with a mechanical room for a pool not a pool house.
 
jwelectric said:
I would think that this is a dwelling unit with a mechanical room for a pool not a pool house.
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I would bet you're incorrect.

I was called to a new house to look at the pool house wiring
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Houses of this size usually have a cabana or pool house separate from the structure esp. if there is a shower in it.
 
Dennis Alwon said:
acrwc10 said:
I have to disagree with you on this, sort of. Many pool houses around here have all the items to make them a dwelling unit, kitchen,laundry, bath room , and sleeping area.
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I guess one could argue that the pool house is not a dwelling (It isn't) and art. 240.24(E) will permit a panel in the bathroom. The distance from the shower is not discussed. Bad idea probably but it is code compliant IMO.
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Well no matter what you call this building it sure fits the definition of a
Dwelling Unit. A single unit, providing complete and independent living facilities for one or more persons, including permanent provisions for living, sleeping, cooking, and sanitation.
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Therefore all the requirements for a dwelling unit will be in effect.

Unless of course I would be allowed to buy one of those buildings from one of the big box stores and install permanent provisions for living, sleeping, cooking, and sanitation and call it a storage buildings.
 
jwelectric said:
Well no matter what you call this building it sure fits the definition of a
Therefore all the requirements for a dwelling unit will be in effect.

Unless of course I would be allowed to buy one of those buildings from one of the big box stores and install permanent provisions for living, sleeping, cooking, and sanitation and call it a storage buildings.
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Mike is a detached garage a dwelling unit if it is on residential property?
 
Dennis Alwon said:
Mike is a detached garage a dwelling unit if it is on residential property?
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Yes if it has the following;
permanent provisions for living, sleeping, cooking, and sanitation.

Is my home a garage just because I can park cars in the attached garage and also in the basement?

I do have another building that has sleeping, cooking and sanitaiton on the same deeded acreage

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Would a granny loft above that detached garage have to comply with the provisions of 210.52 if there was a bath, range and a bed installed?
 
jwelectric said:
Yes if it has the following;
permanent provisions for living, sleeping, cooking, and sanitation.

Is my home a garage just because I can park cars in the attached garage and also in the basement?

I do have another building that has sleeping, cooking and sanitaiton on the same deeded acreage

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Would a granny loft above that detached garage have to comply with the provisions of 210.52 if there was a bath, range and a bed installed?
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Mike I don't know where you got the idea that there are sleeping areas in this building. I don't get that impression. Of course if it did I would agree with you but many cabanas/pool houses have kitchen and bath areas but no sleeping quarters.
 
Dennis Alwon said:
Mike I don't know where you got the idea that there are sleeping areas in this building. I don't get that impression. Of course if it did I would agree with you but many cabanas/pool houses have kitchen and bath areas but no sleeping quarters.
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acrwc10 said:
I have to disagree with you on this, sort of. Many pool houses around here have all the items to make them a dwelling unit, kitchen,laundry, bath room , and sleeping area.[/quote]

from here .
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jwelectric said:
acrwc10 said:
I have to disagree with you on this, sort of. Many pool houses around here have all the items to make them a dwelling unit, kitchen,laundry, bath room , and sleeping area.[/quote]

from here .
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Yes I know but he is not the OP...;)
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