Pool light receptacle

[ozark01]

Can the branch circuit wiring for the receptacle that serves a low voltage plug-in pool light be wired with UF cable? I know a hard-wired light has to be in conduit but I can not find a code section that specifically covers the wiring method for the receptacle for a plug-in light.

 

[chris kennedy]

Can the branch circuit wiring for the receptacle that serves a low voltage plug-in pool light be wired with UF cable? I know a hard-wired light has to be in conduit but I can not find a code section that specifically covers the wiring method for the receptacle for a plug-in light.

What type of light is it? Got a link?

 

[Dennis Alwon]

Can the branch circuit wiring for the receptacle that serves a low voltage plug-in pool light be wired with UF cable? I know a hard-wired light has to be in conduit but I can not find a code section that specifically covers the wiring method for the receptacle for a plug-in light.

Of course location of the recep. would also be in question but here is some info. that may help

(2) Transformers. Transformers used for the supply of underwater luminaires, together with the transformer enclosure, shall be listed as a swimming pool and spa transformer. The transformer shall be an isolated winding type with an ungrounded secondary that has a grounded metal barrier between the primary and secondary windings

(2) Transformers. Transformers used for the supply of underwater luminaires, together with the transformer enclosure, shall be listed as a swimming pool and spa transformer. The transformer shall be an isolated winding type with an ungrounded secondary that has a grounded metal barrier between the primary and secondary windings.
(3) GFCI Protection, Relamping. A ground-fault circuit interrupter shall be installed in the branch circuit supplying luminaires operating at more than 15 volts such that there is no shock hazard during relamping. The installation of the ground-fault circuit interrupter shall be such that there is no shock hazard with any likely fault-condition combination that involves a person in a conductive path from any ungrounded part of the branch circuit or the luminaire to ground..

 

[ozark01]

Here is a link to the light they are going to use.

http://www.americasbestpoolsupply.c...ctID=5968&ProdCount=3&StartRow=1&PageNumber=1

The GFCI receptacle will be 12' from the pool.

 

[Dennis Alwon]

Interesting that is it for above ground pools even those that are considered permanent.

I don't see any reason that would require pvc or conduit of any sort to the recep.

 

[ozark01]

Here is a link to the pool...

http://www.wilkespools.com/pages/prod_genesis.php

 

[Dennis Alwon]

Boy that does not look like what I would call an above ground pool. It looks bermed into the earth on on side. I suspect that light could not be installed in this situation. I realize that it is not your project.

 

[mpd]

I don't think you can use a cord & plug connected underwater light for a permanently installed pool

 

[Dennis Alwon]

I don't think you can use a cord & plug connected underwater light for a permanently installed pool

It is certainly allowed for storageable pools. But I do not see where it is prohibited.

680.23 does not seem to prohibit a transformer that plugs in.

These are low voltage lights

 

[ozark01]

The pool I'm wiring sits flat on the ground with no fill on none of the sides.

 

[mpd]

dennis

I would have a concern about that transformer & cord outside year round, what about 680.7

 

[Dennis Alwon]

dennis

I would have a concern about that transformer & cord outside year round, what about 680.7

Yes I saw that . The lights are not cord and plug. The transformer is cord and plug.

 

[mpd]

dennis

I would need more info, how would you protect the cord from damage, I dont' have my UL white book at home, but I know it has info on pools lights in the back

 

[ozark01]

You can get these lights with 100 feet cords attached. The 120 volt cord on the transformer is 3' and the other 97 feet is 12 volt. I don't see where protecting the cord would be an issue.

 

[mpd]

what type of niche is that for that light

 

[ozark01]

It appears to be a wet niche. Here is a link to the parts breakdown. Page 231, the SP0560, 0570 SERIES.

http://www.haywardnet.com/pdfs/replace_pdfs/230-232.pdf

 

[mpd]

do you have a copy of the install instructions you could post

 

[Poolside]

It appears to be a wet niche. Here is a link to the parts breakdown. Page 231, the SP0560, 0570 SERIES.

http://www.haywardnet.com/pdfs/replace_pdfs/230-232.pdf

I think this to be a no-niche fixture. According to the kit contents, there is no mention of needing a niche and it's a 10 minute DIY project. The fixture should have a sealing flange on the front and back to seal the hole in the vinyl from leaking.

- Greg

 

[ozark01]

I guessed wet niche because the housing is full of water when the lamp assembly is removed to change the bulb and there is no way to drain the water out of the housing. It has enough cord wrapped up in the housing to be able to bring the lamp assembly up to the deck surface to change the bulb.