Jimmy7
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- Boston, MA
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- Electrician
I’ve seen the #8 pool bond run back a couple times to the pool subpanel now. Am I correct and saying it is not required, but not prohibited either?
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marmathsen
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- Seattle, Washington ...ish
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- Electrical Contractor
680.26(B) states:
"An 8 AWG or larger solid copper bonding conductor provided to reduce voltage gradients in the pool area shall not be required to be extended or attached to remote panelboards, service equipment, or electrodes."
Rob G
Seattle
"An 8 AWG or larger solid copper bonding conductor provided to reduce voltage gradients in the pool area shall not be required to be extended or attached to remote panelboards, service equipment, or electrodes."
Rob G
Seattle
Jimmy7
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- Boston, MA
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- Electrician
Not required, but no prohibited then either if someone did it as I seen, correct
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- New Jersey
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- Journeyman Electrician (retired)
Yes it is not prohibited, just a waste of time, material, and money.
Jimmy7
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- Boston, MA
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- Electrician
I agree. I have seen it twice recently
Greentagger
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- Texas
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- Master Electrician, Electrical Inspector
And usually the same guy that does this, drives a rod at the panel also.
Mystic Pools
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- Park Ridge, NJ
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- Swimming Pool Contractor
I've had inspectors tell me they want the panels bonded, transformers bonded, everything metallic at the equipment. Others have said not needed.
I never know what to expect anymore.
I never know what to expect anymore.
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- New Jersey
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- Journeyman Electrician (retired)
The ones saying you need to extend the equipotential bonding conductor to a panel or other equipment need to brush up on Article 680.
Mystic Pools
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- Park Ridge, NJ
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- Swimming Pool Contractor
I'll tell them that and wait for their response.......
Greentagger
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- Texas
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- Master Electrician, Electrical Inspector
Me too. Then i see they’ve driven a rod. To make it safer.
Mystic Pools
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- Park Ridge, NJ
- Occupation
- Swimming Pool Contractor
Yeah right.
There was similar thread on this subject here awhile back.
I use the Jandy panels. Some are subs and others are not. They all have a bond lug on them. Same with their power centers fort a salt system and other products.
I'm pretty sure Pentair is the same way. So, when I see a bond lug, I bond it. Intermatic transformers do not have bond lugs, but I've been told they must be bonded on some occasions.
Most times it's a gamble on inspection requirements.
pipe_bender
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- Location
- Boston
- Occupation
- Electrician
Pool requirements can be confusing, we dont do them very often, some years back when I first started with this company we had some confusion on a new in ground pool install. The inspector failed my boss saying he needed to run a #8 copper ground. I thought he was asking for a #8 to the pool grid, we sent an email to clarify and he said the ground wire from the main house panel to the pool panel had to be #8 copper, we had run an AL feeders to the pool house. The pump motor was on a 2-pole 15A GFCI wire with 14 AWG but needed a green #12 ground, at the pump was a large copper lug where a #8 to the pool grid attached. That #8 was not required to extend to the panel.