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Is it required that wiring motors for pool equipment be in conduit [680.21]? The pool is inside a residential addition & the pump, heater ect., Are located outside on the other side of the wall. It seems to me romex would be easier. The wiring would be within 5ft of the pool where it would be stub outside,seperated by drywall. would romex be code compliant ?
 
bamit said:
Is it required that wiring motors for pool equipment be in conduit [680.21]? The pool is inside a residential addition & the pump, heater ect., Are located outside on the other side of the wall. It seems to me romex would be easier. The wiring would be within 5ft of the pool where it would be stub outside,seperated by drywall. would romex be code compliant ?
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yes and no. going by the 2005 nec, romex is permitted to be used on the interior of a dwelling (art 610.21(A)(4) but for equipment located outdoors wiring methods must be according to art 610.21(A)(1). Run your romex to a JB and then switch over to conduit or listed MC.
 
610 ??
OP didn't mntion underwater luminaires, however, if there are any that will change the story. 680.23 (F) does not include romex as an acceptable wiring method.
 
elohr46 said:
yes and no. going by the 2005 nec, romex is permitted to be used on the interior of a dwelling (art 610.21(A)(4) but for equipment located outdoors wiring methods must be according to art 610.21(A)(1). Run your romex to a JB and then switch over to conduit or listed MC.
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Of course you mean art. 680 not 610.:wink:
 
It depends on the occupancy. With an exception for certain circumstances in dwelling units, metallic raceways are required to provide a redundant equipment grounding path for added safety.
 
this is a great place to start,.. and it don't cost a thing ,... thanks Mikey:smile:

 
Thanks for responding George, this is residential & the code does say you can roun RNC, how would this be a better ground path.
 
bamit did you click on the link I provided?? You might want to check it out.. 680.21(A)(4)
(4) One-Family Dwellings Interior Wiring Method. Any
Chapter 3 wiring method is permitted in the interior of onefamily
dwellings, or in the interior of accessory buildings associated
with a one-family dwelling.
Where run in a raceway, the wiring method requires an insulated
copper equipment grounding (bonding) conductor [680.21(A)(1)].
Figure 680-8
Where run in a cable, Types NM, SE, or UF cable with an uninsulated
equipment grounding (bonding) conductor are permitted​
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It also depends on whether the motor wiring is a branch circuit or if you are planning to install a separate panel outside for the motors and other equipment- as would be common when installing any pool automation equipment (e.g. Jandy, Hayward, or Pentair power centers). According to 680.25 this wiring must be one of the wiring methods listed, and NM cable or FMC isn't allowed, either.

- Greg
 
It has always appeared to me that the issue is not having an INSULATED ground wire from the service to the equipment. That's why we can use romex to feed thru an attic to pool equipment.


It's in there somewhere.
 
elohr46 said:
yes and no. going by the 2005 nec, romex is permitted to be used on the interior of a dwelling (art 610.21(A)(4) but for equipment located outdoors wiring methods must be according to art 610.21(A)(1). Run your romex to a JB and then switch over to conduit or listed MC.
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duh, typo. I meant art. 680, not 610.
 
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