Primary tap connections

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jam

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Does anyone have a source (manufacturer) of primary MV-90 type cable taps.

I am running a primary u/g line around a site and tapping off to feed various transformers.

Thanks in advance for any help.
 

jim dungar

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Re: Primary tap connections

Look at 3M

Or Raychem.

(edited to correct oversized page)

[ June 28, 2003, 02:35 PM: Message edited by: don_resqcapt19 ]
 

jam

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Re: Primary tap connections

Thanks for the reply.


I looked at both 3M and Raychem, I only found splice kits, not taps.
 

bob

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Alabama
Re: Primary tap connections

Have you considered using a loop thru using Elastimold/Hubbell L.B. Elbows. Check this site.
http:\\chardonelectrical.com/crossref.html
The elbows are load break and offer you the advantage as a temporary normal open point.
 

bennie

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Re: Primary tap connections

You might check out the Dossert Connector Company.

Type in keyword Dossert Connector. They have tee and vee connectors.
 

jam

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Re: Primary tap connections

Bob:

I have considered this but if one transformer is taken off line wouldnt all the "downstream" transformer be down ?

[ June 26, 2003, 10:02 PM: Message edited by: jam ]
 

jam

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Re: Primary tap connections

Bennie

Thank you, I will contact them to see if they have an appropriate product for the application.
 

bob

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Re: Primary tap connections

You would need to have a loop feed or another source at the other end of the cable. A loop feed in my mind is a cable that loops in and out at each transformer and back to the source. You can isloate a bad cable with the LB Elbows and not have the other transformer out for a long period of time. How many transformers do you have? How big an area is this? Industrial customer?

[ June 26, 2003, 11:47 PM: Message edited by: bob ]
 

bennie

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Re: Primary tap connections

jam: Is this a single cable URD system? Give a few more details about the project.

[ June 27, 2003, 12:16 AM: Message edited by: bennie ]
 

bennie

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Re: Primary tap connections

Jam: Medium voltage cable can not be tee tapped.

They must be landed in the transformer with stress cone terminals.

This appears to be a distribution engineering project. You must turn this over to UD specialists.
 

don_resqcapt19

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Re: Primary tap connections

Bennie,
You can "tee" tap medium voltage cable. There are termination kits that will provide the required stress reduction. Its been a long time since I've done one, but we used stress cones on each of the 3 cables and then made the connection to the "tee". The "tee" was insulated and covered with a flexible wire mesh to provide the shielding. This mesh was tied to the shields of the three cables. Here are the instructions for a 3M TEE Tape Splice Kit for 15kV shielded cable.
Don

[ June 28, 2003, 02:47 PM: Message edited by: don_resqcapt19 ]
 

bennie

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Re: Primary tap connections

I agree that shielded medium voltage cable can be tee tapped, but shielded concentric neutral cable tapping is not recommended.
 

charlie

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Indianapolis
Re: Primary tap connections

You do not want to design you system that way! Use loop feed (6 bushing, 2 bushing for single phase) pad mounted transformers. If you have a cable fault from the tap to the transformer, you would be out of business. By using loop feed, it doesn't matter where a fault happened, the bad cable could be switched out and the whole system could be up and running again.

A loop feed transformer works by looping the primary, unfused, through from bushing to bushing. A bay-o-net fuse goes from the jumper to the primary coil and may be removed and replaced with a shotgun hot stick.

With a loop system, you need an open point and to feed the loop from both ends. You need lightning arresters on both ends of the open point. The MV cable needs to be large enough to handle the total load of the loop. You need two qualified people to do any work on the system whenever any switching is done. :cool:
 

bob

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Re: Primary tap connections

Jam
How many transformers are involved in this project? Suggest you install fault indicators
at each transformer. Saves a lot of time in the dark looking for a bad cable.
 
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