Private Locate Service

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I own a mini ex, and I’m focusing more on underground/excavation/foundations, and electrical/utility work (private)

Im thinking of buying a locate tool instead of renting it, and offering private locate service as one of my services.

A couple of local ECs in my area do this.

What kind of liability am I opening myself up for, and what kind of accuracy am I required to provide, if any?

Anyone else here do this, and what else should I know of o decide to do this?

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Yea for public utilities. Im talking private.

For example, I just did a 160’ feeder to a detached garage. It crossed an existing feeder to a well house. I did the locate on that.

I talked to a local EC about doing a locate on a commercial property where I had to install a feeder for a standby generator. There was an existing feeder to a separate building

All these are private. 811 doesn’t cover this.
 
It’s a good idea. no one in my area does it they come about 50 miles away. Thought about doing the same thing as you, but I am to lazy, and scared to adventure.
 
I think having adequate insurance would be essential. Had a friend that was doing excavation for a new septic leach. Had all 811 marking done, and maintained. In the process of excavating hit a main phone truck line. At first was threatened with a bill for repair in the hundreds of thousands, but was only saved in that he was able to verify the mark out was done and he was no where near it. What was done the utility instead of running straight though from point a to point b, they went around a cluster of trees and ended up over 150ft from the 811 marking. Not sure who paid but he didn't.
 
Generally speaking you draft your contract to limit liability.
Utilities locate their own facilities, so you don’t have to worry about that liability.
Public utilities have maps or some other means to show a locate company approximately where their facilities are located. It is their responsibility to know where their facilities are located all over their territory.

Private owners of underground infrastructure, whether businesses or homeowners, have the responsibility to protect their assets as well. They must know (or have an idea of) where their utilities are located.
Sadly, most have no clue what they own that’s buried in their yard (or facility).

When you locate for these private assets, the HO needs to help you by telling you where certain points are located. Such as “ here is where the line leaves the house and feeds the garage” after that, you take over and locate the line. Again, most can’t even tell you that, so it becomes your job (not responsibility) to sleuth out their facilities.
For this reason you draft a contract along the lines of:

“shall be limited to the amount of earned fee and extend only to the Client should (your company) commit negligent acts.“
include in there somewhere a disclaimer that your company will not be liable for any exemplary, punitive or consequential damages of any nature.

Here is one I read in a contract submitted a few years back..

“(your company) provides a service to reduce risk. Due to the nature of this type of work we cannot guarantee accuracy or omissions in locating underground utilities, and disclaim all liability for any damages based on information provided. (your company)has experienced locators and will perform our work in accordance with the standards customarily provided by an experienced and competent organization rendering the same services.”

FWIW, I own a Dynatel 573A sheath fault locator and a “pipe horn”. the Dynatel is probably one of the best locators for finding broken or blown out underground electric lines I have ever used.
I used to locate some for individuals years ago. I always told them I wasn’t responsible for what they tore up after I located the line. And if they didn’t tell me a sprinkler line was in the yard, I don't know to look for it.
Also I couldn’t locate lines that didn’t have a copper wire with it..

”daylighting” or ”potholing” is gaining in popularity now with many private locators. This way the HO (and you) know you have found what you said was below.
 
It appears there are companies that do training and “certification” for private locators.

What I don’t know is who, if anyone, regulates private locators, or if there are any requirements for certifications.

Or maybe it’s just a CYA type of situation, and perform the work as best as you’re able to.
 
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