Proximity of outlet for bidet seat to shower

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Hi - I'm trying to understand what code is here. I am looking at installing a toilet right next to the fixed part of a glass shower. So to be clear - the shower is 6 feet long and has two panels of glass - one that slides and one that doesn't. The toilet is next to the panel that doesn't. The outlet was intended to be almost right above the shower curb, but on the bathroom, not shower side of the fixed glass pane.

nec 406.9(c) is confusingly worded. Does this pass? If I'm reading this right I think it passes NEC 2020 but not NEC 2017?

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I'd say your good. Most likely need to be GFCI protected and make sure you have access to work on it after bidet is installed

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You may want to take a peek at 406.9 (C) No receptacles can be installed in zone within 3' horizontally and 8' vertically from the top of a bathtub rim or shower threshold.
 
Rick 0920 said:
You may want to take a peek at 406.9 (C) No receptacles can be installed in zone within 3' horizontally and 8' vertically from the top of a bathtub rim or shower threshold.
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That's a change to the 2020 NEC, and CA is still using the 2017 NEC. For 2017, the language is just "Receptacles shall not be
installed within or directly over a bathtub or shower stall." Under that language, I would say that the shower stall ends at the fixed glass.

For the 2020 language, presumably "shower threshold" means only on the region of the curb you can step over to access the interior of the shower, and would exclude the portion of the curb with fixed glass on it. In which case if the receptacle is at least 3' horizontally from the open end of the fixed glass, it would be fine fine.

Cheers, Wayne
 
wwhitney said:
That's a change to the 2020 NEC, and CA is still using the 2017 NEC. For 2017, the language is just "Receptacles shall not be
installed within or directly over a bathtub or shower stall." Under that language, I would say that the shower stall ends at the fixed glass.

For the 2020 language, presumably "shower threshold" means only on the region of the curb you can step over to access the interior of the shower, and would exclude the portion of the curb with fixed glass on it. In which case if the receptacle is at least 3' horizontally from the open end of the fixed glass, it would be fine fine.

Cheers, Wayne
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Wayne, I'm not so sure on this. I guess it depends on the definition of "threshold". If you had a 4" high threshold along a shower stall, and half of the threshold has a fixed glass panel on it, does it make it no longer a threshold? 406.9 (C) uses the words "the identified zone is all-encompassing". To me, that means a 3' zone measured horizontally from the shower stall, whether you have a fixed glass panel there or not. I see your point and I want to hear from others as well and get their input. Thanks.
 
Rick 0920 said:
Wayne, I'm not so sure on this. I guess it depends on the definition of "threshold". If you had a 4" high threshold along a shower stall, and half of the threshold has a fixed glass panel on it, does it make it no longer a threshold?
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Yes. It would still be a curb, but no longer a threshold. Check any definition of threshold, and it's about a doorway or opening. No opening, no threshold. The word threshold is new in 2020, so that's an intentional change.

Cheers, Wayne
 
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