Push on Wire Connectors

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Bob Kraemer

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Who makes a push on connector that works with #12 stranded THHN/THWN non tinned style of wire?
Just finished wiring 129 8' feed through fluorescent fixtures with wire nuts. :mad:
 
Bob Kraemer said:
Who makes a push on connector that works with #12 stranded THHN/THWN non tinned style of wire?
Just finished wiring 129 8' feed through fluorescent fixtures with wire nuts. :mad:

Wago makes one kind

Click Here

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Thanks Dennis,
The Ideal connectors I ordered from the supply house wouldn't accept stranded #12 unless it was tinned, I called the supply house back and asked how come these don't accept stranded #12, response: yes they do, my response: no they don't, read further down on the list, there response: OOP'S :mad: :mad:
 
Bob Kraemer said:
.....Just finished wiring 129 8' feed through fluorescent fixtures with wire nuts. :mad:

I am assuming you are speaking of fixtures butted end to end. If so you might want to look at a 3M product (I forgot the cat #, but 367 comes to mind) that allows you to "tap" the branch circuit condutors without cutting them. The critter snaps around the branch circuitb and has a provision for the ballast lead.
 
Dennis Alwon said:
Wago makes one kind

Click Here

222415_PR.jpg
Do you know anything or have an opion about the reliability of these connectors. I'm not real thrilled with the push ins from Wago. I remove them from cans and florescents and put in wire nuts.:smile:
 
augie47 said:
I am assuming you are speaking of fixtures butted end to end. Correct If so you might want to look at a 3M product (I forgot the cat #, but 367 comes to mind) that allows you to "tap" the branch circuit condutors without cutting them. The critter snaps around the branch circuitb and has a provision for the ballast lead.

Thanks Augie,
The part # is 3M-567 I tried using the yellow 3M taps on another job but those would not accept the ballast lead {to small} now after some more research I have the right part #
Here is the link to the PDF file http://multimedia.3m.com/mws/mediawebserver?66666UuZjcFSLXTtlXMcLXMyEVuQEcuZgVs6EVs6E666666--
 
Bob, from your link:

Solid or stranded copper conductors. For use with
common thermoplastic insulated wires such as: T, TF,
TFF, TFN, TFFN, AWM, TEW, SAE-GPT with a
maximum insulation diameter of (tap) .145 inches (3.5
mm) run .190 inches (4.8 mm).

Does this list preclude us from using the usual THHN/THWN conductors?
 
LarryFine said:
Bob, from your link:
Quote:

Solid or stranded copper conductors. For use with
common thermoplastic insulated wires such as: T, TF,
TFF, TFN, TFFN, AWM, TEW, SAE-GPT with a
maximum insulation diameter of (tap) .145 inches (3.5
mm) run .190 inches (4.8 mm).

Does this list preclude us from using the usual THHN/THWN conductors?
I have no idea, but I am going to call on Monday and find out though.
 
ideal push in connectors

ideal push in connectors

i had a couple of different customers with these installed in there house.they both had problems with loose connections.
 
zappy said:
i had a couple of different customers with these installed in there house.they both had problems with loose connections.

I've seen guys using the wrong ones with the wrong gauge wire - not good. never had a problem with the push ons myself (with solid wire :grin: )
 
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