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hmahmood4

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Electrician
How much does a master electrician receive annually for qualifying a company? I understand that there are many forms of compensation including salaried, percentage of sales, combination of both, etc. I was wondering what the going rate is for a salaried qualifier.
 
Anywhere from zero on up would be my guess. The reality is is there are a crap load of Master electricians out there. A lot of people will sell their souls for an extra hundred bucks a week. Or less.

Make the best deal you can, and keep in mind that you have some obligations that come with that extra hundred bucks a week or whatever it ends up being. There are also some potential liabilities.

You might want to have a chat with your lawyer long before you sign up for whatever deal you can make.

You should also consider what your exit strategy would be if you decide to move along or start your own business. Your lawyer can help you with that as well.

You might also want to consider why a principal in the business is unwilling to take on this responsibility, or unable to.

Do not sign anything without passing it by your lawyer first.
 
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hmahmood4 said:
I was wondering what the going rate is for a salaried qualifier.
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I missed this question. Best guess is if you are salaried you will work enough hours that your hourly rate will approach that of a first year apprentice. :)

Don't believe the stories people will tell you about how you will just sign a few forms everyday in your comfy air conditioned office prepared by your hot blond assistant, before heading out in the company limo for the daily lunch at the local lobster house paid by the company.
 
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petersonra said:
I missed this question. Best guess is if you are salaried you will work enough hours that your hourly rate will approach that of a first year apprentice. :)

Don't believe the stories people will tell you about how you will just sign a few forms everyday in your comfy air conditioned office prepared by your hot blond assistant, before heading out in the company limo for the daily lunch at the local lobster house paid by the company.
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I think I did not state the question clearly. I am a master electrician in the state of Florida. I own my own electrical contracting business. I have someone who is GC and wants me to qualify his company. I understand all the responsibilities and requirements of a qualifier. My question is what is fair compensation?
 
hmahmood4 said:
I think I did not state the question clearly. I am a master electrician in the state of Florida. I own my own electrical contracting business. I have someone who is GC and wants me to qualify his company. I understand all the responsibilities and requirements of a qualifier. My question is what is fair compensation?
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is that even legal? most places you cannot do this for more than one company.
 
petersonra said:
is that even legal? most places you cannot do this for more than one company.
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I don't think he can qualify more than one that will be doing business during the same hours. Now if he wants to tell the the GC that his construction business will have to work after 5:00 PM every day maybe he has something. ;)
 
roger said:
I don't think he can qualify more than one that will be doing business during the same hours. Now if he wants to tell the the GC that his construction business will have to work after 5:00 PM every day maybe he has something. ;)
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You can qualify an unlimited amount of companies providing you can support and protect yourself. But you guys are all missing the question. I am not asking how many companies I can qualify, or if I can qualify, I am asking the going rate
 
hmahmood4 said:
You can qualify an unlimited amount of companies providing you can support and protect yourself. But you guys are all missing the question. I am not asking how many companies I can qualify, or if I can qualify, I am asking the going rate
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good point. maybe you should start by asking how much you would be willing to pay if you needed such a person.
 
hmahmood4 said:
You can qualify an unlimited amount of companies providing you can support and protect yourself. But you guys are all missing the question. I am not asking how many companies I can qualify, or if I can qualify, I am asking the going rate
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Welcome to your average, everyday conversation here
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Qualifying a company is not a term I am familiar with. Am i correct to assume it is providing the master license needed for a contractors license?
 
hmahmood4 said:
I think I did not state the question clearly. I am a master electrician in the state of Florida. I own my own electrical contracting business. I have someone who is GC and wants me to qualify his company. I understand all the responsibilities and requirements of a qualifier. My question is what is fair compensation?
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Even if that’s legal in your state, it sounds like a foolish high risk. You would be qualifying a GC & his employees to do electrical work. I picture open splices, overfused wire, lights installed with deck screws, etc. More issues than you can count.
 
In FL with an unlimited license you can qualify more than one company with the Board's permission. I've done it in the past. The OP is, however, getting into dangerous territory as far as liability issues. In my case it was someone I knew and it was just a very temporary arrangement. This is not something I would recommend for most.
 
I notice that you are not getting a good clear answer to your question. You may want to switch strategies.

I am a GC. I don't have a direct answer for you, but this may help.

About a year ago I was looking to use my license to qualify a company/person to work under my license for a salary (fee); this is a normal, legal practice in North Carolina.

I got on some construction forums and on CL and searched for people who had submitted posts that they were looking to qualify companies on the forums.

I used the search feature to go back for years to look at old posts by GC qualifiers offering their services.

Then I emailed them and asked to talk with them on the phone. I also tracked down their office phone number and just called them up. Most GCs that I reached out to were happy to talk with me; they gave me an idea of a salary number I should expect.

They also had a lot of good advice to keep my license safe; this was an unexpected benefit of talking to them.
 
Here is an excerpt from the NC laws.

87-43. Electrical contracting defined; licenses.
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Electrical contracting shall be defined as engaging or offering to engage in the business of installing, maintaining, altering or repairing any electric work, wiring, devices, appliances or equipment. No person, partnership, firm or corporation shall engage, or offer to engage, in the business of electrical contracting within the State of North Carolina without having received a license in the applicable classification described in G.S. 87-43.3 from the State Board of Examiners of Electrical Contractors in compliance with the provisions of this Article, regardless of whether the offer was made or the work was performed by a qualified individual as defined in G.S.87-41.1. In each separate place of business operated by an electrical contractor at least one listed qualified individual shall be regularly on active duty and shall have the specific duty and authority to supervise and direct all electrical wiring or electrical installation work done or made by such separate place of business. Every person, partnership, firm or corporation engaging in the business of electrical contracting shall display a current certificate of license in his principal place of business and in each branch place of business which he operates. Licenses issued hereunder shall be signed by the chairman and the secretary-treasurer of the Board, under the seal of the Board. A registry of all licenses issued to electrical contractors shall be kept by the secretary-treasurer of the Board, and said registry shall be open for public inspection during ordinary business hours.
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and

87-47. Penalties imposed by Board; enforcement procedures.
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(a1) The following activities are prohibited:
(1) Offering to engage or engaging in electrical contracting without being licensed.
(2) Selling, transferring, or assigning a license, regardless of whether for a fee.
(3) Aiding or abetting an unlicensed person, partnership, firm, or corporation to offer to engage or to engage in electrical contracting.
(4) Being convicted of a crime involving fraud or moral turpitude.
(5) Engaging in fraud or misrepresentation to obtain a certification, obtain or renew a license, or practice electrical contracting.
(6) Engaging in false or misleading advertising.
(7) Engaging in malpractice, unethical conduct, fraud, deceit, gross negligence, gross incompetence, or gross misconduct in the practice of electrical contracting.
(a2) The Board may administer one or more of the following penalties if the applicant, licensee, or qualified individual has engaged in any activity prohibited under subsection (a1) of this section:
(1) Reprimand.
(2) Suspension from practice for a period not to exceed 12 months.
(3) Revocation of the right to serve as a listed qualified individual on any license issued by the Board.
(4) Revocation of license.
(5) Probationary revocation of license or the right to serve as a listed qualified individual on any license issued by the Board, upon conditions set by the Board as the case warrants, and revocation upon failure to comply with the conditions.
(6) Revocation of certification.
(7) Refusal to certify an applicant or a qualified individual.
(8) Refusal to issue a license to an applicant.
(9) Refusal to renew a license.
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