Queens box to use as a splice panel

dm9289

Industrial Maintenance Electrician
Location
Pennsylvania
Occupation
Industrial process repair/ maintenance Electrician
A finished bathroom had a panel that needed replaced to pass inspection it needed relocated. Someone mentioned remove panel replace with Queens box for splices and relocate panel.
I have no idea what a Queens box is. In the moment it was not involved with my personnel work but later it bothered me. Does anyone know what a queens box is?
 

PaulMmn

Senior Member
Location
Union, KY, USA
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EIT - Engineer in Training, Lafayette College
From your description it sounds like (and is subject to a more informed response) you install a new panel in a convenient spot, then gut the old box and splice and extend the wires from the old box to the new box. The splices are in the old box, which gets a plain metal cover in place of the door panel.
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An on-line search did little more than show me pictures of mattresses and box springs. Queen-sized.
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Nearest I could come to a picture of what the old panel might look like (if taken with a grain of salt)--

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dm9289

Industrial Maintenance Electrician
Location
Pennsylvania
Occupation
Industrial process repair/ maintenance Electrician
From your description it sounds like (and is subject to a more informed response) you install a new panel in a convenient spot, then gut the old box and splice and extend the wires from the old box to the new box. The splices are in the old box, which gets a plain metal cover in place of the door panel.
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An on-line search did little more than show me pictures of mattresses and box springs. Queen-sized.
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Thats what i got also with Mattresses. I think its just a large junction box
 

PaulMmn

Senior Member
Location
Union, KY, USA
Occupation
EIT - Engineer in Training, Lafayette College
Thats what i got also with Mattresses. I think its just a large junction box
AFAIK, you don't remove the old box-- just the main power feed gets shifted to the new box (plug the holes in the old box). The breakers, bus bars all go away; all circuits are spliced in the old breaker box-- it's now just a large junction box.
 

PaulMmn

Senior Member
Location
Union, KY, USA
Occupation
EIT - Engineer in Training, Lafayette College
Discussion are https://forum.nachi.org/t/service-panel-used-as-junction-box/6504 and other locations... I searched for >electrical breaker box used as junction box<
General consensus is that it's legal, but unless you replace the existing door with a flat panel, the hinged door must be permanently fastened shut, and a label on the front should indicate where the breakers are now located, and the box must be 'accessible' (no paneling over it with drywall).
 

dm9289

Industrial Maintenance Electrician
Location
Pennsylvania
Occupation
Industrial process repair/ maintenance Electrician
Discussion are https://forum.nachi.org/t/service-panel-used-as-junction-box/6504 and other locations... I searched for >electrical breaker box used as junction box<
General consensus is that it's legal, but unless you replace the existing door with a flat panel, the hinged door must be permanently fastened shut, and a label on the front should indicate where the breakers are now located, and the box must be 'accessible' (no paneling over it with drywall).
Thank you
 
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