Question about shower trim in closet?

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Hello, Recently wired a remodel an the owner wanted cans in the closet so I installed the Halo H7ICT 6" cans in the closet an now at trim out went after the shower trims . Found the Halo 70PS shower trim an went to install but the 70PS is not listed on the list inside the light the one listed is the 170PS . Can't find it locally but after reading around it looks like when using the 170PS the can is air tite so does this mean I can use the 70PS trim? Don't see a problem but would like other opinions before I use them. Thanks
 
I'd call Halo and get it from the horse's mouth that it's okay, to be sure.

I'd recommend compact fluorescent lamps, to get the most light out of the enclosed trim as possible.
 
George

What is the HALO Cat No for the lights you are recommending

Thanks
 
georgestolz said:
I'd recommend compact fluorescent lamps, to get the most light out of the enclosed trim as possible.
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Would he need the enclosed trim if he used the fluorescents??

The enclosed rule only applys to incandescents but the fixture itself is still incandescent. Thoughts
 
jes25,

I would say that you still have to use a enclosed trim. The fixture is a incandescent fixture, therefore in the future a incandescent bulb can, and probably will be, installed.

Chris
 
raider1 said:
jes25,

I would say that you still have to use a enclosed trim. The fixture is a incandescent fixture, therefore in the future a incandescent bulb can, and probably will be, installed.

Chris
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I'm with Chris. Unless the fixture is designed for only florescent lamps than it needs a trim that completely encloses the lamp.
 
When sizing lamps for a fixture, what value is to be used?

For example, a CF lamp is rated 15W with a 65W equivalent light output.

Which number applies to the fixture's limitations?
 
georgestolz said:
For example, a CF lamp is rated 15W with a 65W equivalent light output. Which number applies to the fixture's limitations?
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Actual wattage.

Most of us are programmed for incandescent thinking. If the mfr didn't add that "65W equivalent light output" to the package, we wouldn't know what CF bulbs to purchase. :)
 
georgestolz said:
When sizing lamps for a fixture, what value is to be used?

For example, a CF lamp is rated 15W with a 65W equivalent light output.

Which number applies to the fixture's limitations?
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Any calculations would use the maximum fixture wattage regardless of the lamp type installed.
 
georgestolz said:
When sizing lamps for a fixture, what value is to be used?
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I agree with the others. Use the actual wattage. Think of it this way. Fixtures....errr...luminaires....are designed to withstand a certain amount of heat before they get too hot and turn the building into a pile of cinders. As we know, incandescents are very good at producing a lot of heat with very little light relative to the power consumed. CFLs are much better at producing light with far less wattage, but you have to make sure that the CFL can be used in an enclosed luminaire.
 
peter d said:
...but you have to make sure that the CFL can be used in an enclosed luminaire.
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Can you elaborate?

infinity said:
Any calculations would use the maximum fixture wattage regardless of the lamp type installed.
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True. I was just thinking of the actual fixture itself (as in, "60W Max"), as opposed to calculations.

I agree with the use of the "15W" value when sizing lamps for a fixture. I thought perhaps I was thinking incorrectly, so I figured I'd throw that out there to be sure. :)
 
georgestolz said:
Can you elaborate?
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Sure, I've noticed that some CFLs state on the package that they can't be used in totally enclosed fixtures. But I think the vast majority, particularly the lower wattage ones, are just fine for T.E. fixtures.

I'll have to check the Home Depot ones made by TCP that I have in the garage next time.
 
220.14(D) Luminaires (lighting fixtures).
An outlet supplying luminaires(s) [lighting fixture(s)] shall be calculated based on the maximum volt-ampere rating of the equipment and lamps for which the luminaire(s) [fixture(s)] is rated.
 
raider1 said:
jes25,

I would say that you still have to use a enclosed trim. The fixture is a incandescent fixture, therefore in the future a incandescent bulb can, and probably will be, installed.

Chris
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I agree. It was brought up in a very high end house with a huge closet where the decorator wanted to use a partially enclosed lamp type fixture. The CFL idea was brought up and I thought I would run it past ya.



As far as putting a CFL in a reccesed can, I think you can only use the types of lamps and wattage listed on the trims. You know BR, A-19 par etc. Is CFL one of the types.

I suppose if you were to use a CFL you would want to match the watttage with the max wattage for the A lamp since the CFL wont reflect heat down nor will the A lamp
 
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