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Hello Folks,
I'm a new member here but I have been reading this forum for many years. I work in the lighting industry - please don't hate me!
Often times I have engineered custom lighting for indoor spaces (libraries primarily) that incorporate convenience receptacles into the design. Being hard wired and permanently installed there was not a lot of thinking involved in adding a receptacle to the base of the light.
Now I have a different project that will be outdoors in a textbook wet location. It is furniture, not a light, but it will be permanently installed. I have been reading up on the 2014 NEC 406.9 and it appears I will need to use an in-use cover:
"(1) Receptacles of 15 and 20 Amperes in a Wet Location.
15- and 20-ampere, 125- and 250-volt receptacles installed in a wet location shall have an enclosure that is weatherproof whether or not the attachment plug cap is inserted. An outlet box hood installed for this purpose shall be listed and shall be identified as “extra-duty.” All 15- and 20- ampere, 125- and 250-volt nonlocking-type receptacles shall be listed weather-resistant type."
Later in this part is this:
"(2) Other Receptacles.
All other receptacles installed in a wet location shall comply with (B)(2)(a) or (B)(2)(b).
(a) A receptacle installed in a wet location, where the product intended to be plugged into it is not attended while in use, shall have an enclosure that is weatherproof with the attachment plug cap
inserted or removed.
(b) A receptacle installed in a wet location where the product intended to be plugged into it will be attended while in use (e.g., portable tools) shall have an enclosure that is weatherproof when the attachment plug is removed."
The designers of this product have latched on to the "attended while in use" part of the code and think we can use the attractive "slim" type of cover. However I believe that this refers to receptacles that are NOT line voltage - like USB chargers and the like (not that there are any WR-rated USB chargers out there....).
Who is right?
Also, would/could the AHJ, seeing our product with the slim type cover force the installer to remove it and install an in-use cover? How likely would that happen?
Many thanks for all your help and, on behalf of lighting manufacturers everywhere, sorry about those LED things....
I'm a new member here but I have been reading this forum for many years. I work in the lighting industry - please don't hate me!
Often times I have engineered custom lighting for indoor spaces (libraries primarily) that incorporate convenience receptacles into the design. Being hard wired and permanently installed there was not a lot of thinking involved in adding a receptacle to the base of the light.
Now I have a different project that will be outdoors in a textbook wet location. It is furniture, not a light, but it will be permanently installed. I have been reading up on the 2014 NEC 406.9 and it appears I will need to use an in-use cover:
"(1) Receptacles of 15 and 20 Amperes in a Wet Location.
15- and 20-ampere, 125- and 250-volt receptacles installed in a wet location shall have an enclosure that is weatherproof whether or not the attachment plug cap is inserted. An outlet box hood installed for this purpose shall be listed and shall be identified as “extra-duty.” All 15- and 20- ampere, 125- and 250-volt nonlocking-type receptacles shall be listed weather-resistant type."
Later in this part is this:
"(2) Other Receptacles.
All other receptacles installed in a wet location shall comply with (B)(2)(a) or (B)(2)(b).
(a) A receptacle installed in a wet location, where the product intended to be plugged into it is not attended while in use, shall have an enclosure that is weatherproof with the attachment plug cap
inserted or removed.
(b) A receptacle installed in a wet location where the product intended to be plugged into it will be attended while in use (e.g., portable tools) shall have an enclosure that is weatherproof when the attachment plug is removed."
The designers of this product have latched on to the "attended while in use" part of the code and think we can use the attractive "slim" type of cover. However I believe that this refers to receptacles that are NOT line voltage - like USB chargers and the like (not that there are any WR-rated USB chargers out there....).
Who is right?
Also, would/could the AHJ, seeing our product with the slim type cover force the installer to remove it and install an in-use cover? How likely would that happen?
Many thanks for all your help and, on behalf of lighting manufacturers everywhere, sorry about those LED things....