Recess Lighting Installation

[Ravenvalor]

I am trying to find a cost effective method of installing 6" pop-in "Halo" recessed cans in a sheet rock ceiling that is attached to 1" tongue & groove. The house was built in 1960. A 6 & 1.4" holesaw is too expensive.
Thank you,
Jim

 

[mcclary's electrical]

I am trying to find a cost effective method of installing 6" pop-in "Halo" recessed cans in a sheet rock ceiling that is attached to 1" tongue & groove. The house was built in 1960. A 6 & 1.4" holesaw is too expensive.
Thank you,
Jim

No offense, but if you can't afford a 28 dollar hole saw......... \

Can you afford the liability the running your own business

 

[Ravenvalor]

cost

cost

The supply house salesman said that it was about $100.00.

 

[Volta]

The supply house salesman said that it was about $100.00.

Here is a compromise for $54 + shipping.

Good investment, even at $100 it'd be worth it too me for the described task.
I have one, never regretted it.

 

[eric9822]

Home Depot has them for $40.

http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs...ping-_-googleads&locStoreNum=1012&marketID=48

 

[Ravenvalor]

Hole saw problem solved.

Hole saw problem solved.

Thanks, $40 for a hole saw is a good deal.

Now I have to figure out a way to install the 6" halo remodel cans. The provided springs will only work on about a 1/2" thickness. This ceiling is 1 and 1/2" thick. I was thinking about driving skinny wood screws into the sides of the tongue and groove but I am worried about ul listing. Speaking of ul listing, "Halo" might not even permit installation on wood.

Thank you,

Jim

 

[Dennis Alwon]

Jim I don't think installing the cans in wood is an issue and I believe the Halo clips will work. I take it there is no attic above this? If there is I would strongly recommend standard cans-- I hate the remodel cans and only use them where I have to.

 

[Dennis Alwon]

Lowes sells a hole saw kit that collects the dust as you cut. Not sure how it works on wood but it is 25.00

 

[Ravenvalor]

Lowes sells a hole saw kit that collects the dust as you cut. Not sure how it works on wood but it is 25.00

Thanks for the reply. I've got one of those and they're not designed for 1" wood. On a side note, these saws are dangerous.

Jim

 

[Ravenvalor]

springs

springs

Jim I don't think installing the cans in wood is an issue and I believe the Halo clips will work. I take it there is no attic above this? If there is I would strongly recommend standard cans-- I hate the remodel cans and only use them where I have to.

I've got some cans in the shop. I will try to bend it 1.5". I tried it on Thursday and got the impression that it would not work.

Thanks.

 

[Dennis Alwon]

Sorry I didn't read your post thru. Sheetrock with T & G will not work. Just for your info the T&G is probably 3/4" but it still wont work.

 

[Dennis Alwon]

On a side note, these saws are dangerous.
Jim

Yeah I have the very nice $80.00 version-- that was 15 years ago price. It works well but wood is still tricky. I like the adjustability of it.

Make sure that hole saw works for retro cans and specifically the one you want to use. Should work for Halo-- this is from Home depot

For 6 In. recessed lights.
Makes precise holes in drywall and ceiling tile.
Recommended for most major brands of 6 In. recessed lighting fixtures.
For use in drywall, ceiling tile, steel, wood, plastic, stainless steel and cast iron.
MFG Brand Name : Klein Tools
MFG Model # : 31600SEN
MFG Part # : 31600SEN

I would be careful with this saw also, esp. in wood.

 

[mcclary's electrical]

I don't know who makes it, but there is a remodel can with different slots on the clips, I think there's slots 1/2", 1", 1 &1/2". Sorry I can't remember the name.

 

[Ravenvalor]

I call the $25 recessed light hole saws "flying blades". Spinning blades would probably be more accurate.

 

[mengelman]

I've done a lot in wood ceilings and never had any luck with holesaws that size.
They can grab and do some damage. I use a recip saw. I use a greenlee with replaceable blades for sheetrock. Havent had much luck with that whirlygig thing either.

 

[handy10]

My jig saw does very well on 6'' holes. How many lights do you have to install?

 

[Ravenvalor]

My jig saw does very well on 6'' holes. How many lights do you have to install?

I've got to cut 8 - holes if I can talk the customer into it. I will try to find the remodel can with the different slots for the clips.

Thanks.

 

[Dennis Alwon]

If I had to I would get rid of the clips and get some sheetmetal and make an "ell" shape. Near the top drill a hole and tap it for an 8/32 screw. Put the can in and then slide the homemade sheetmetal clips into the slots using the screw as a handle ( you may need a washer ). Push the clip down and tighten with the screw.

 

[bgeorge]

Utilitech lighting fixtures have the "more adjustable" clips for ceiling thicknesses.

 

[Bobhook149]

Juno also has the adjustable clips and are my favorite can by far.:grin: