Recessed lighting trim ratings and location use

[electricus]

So I've recently learned that non-IC luminare have to not only be kept 3" from insulation as the manufactures label says. But what they also fail to list on their label is that all recessed parts need to be kept 1/2" from combustable parts. I did not know this, but do now (410.116(A)1). So with that said where can I find what materials are considered combustable? Does this mean that a non-IC rated luminare needs 1/2" clearance around the part sticking through the ceiling? If so some of those trims would barely cover the hole if cut neatly.

I found HALO makes an IC rated recessed luminare for my application. Now my next question is what can be used for trims and lamps if these are mounted outdoors under a soffit on the eave and gable ends of the roof. I don't see any location rating on the trim (HALO 78P), such as damp, which is the definition of the location they will be installed in. Also, can a A19 lamp be used if not listed on the sticker in the trim? The lamps for this trim are R30 or PAR30L. I see in the big box stores they have indoor and indoor/outdoor rated lamps. Looks like the outdoor rated ones are shown installed in a flood luminare and directly exposed to the elements. If the lamps are going in a recessed luminare under the soffit can indoor lamps be used?

 

[electricus]

After further thought about the rating of the trims, I don't believe they affect the "can light." It is rated for damp locations regardless of the trim. If a shower trim is used then it bumps the can light up to wet location rated.

 

[Sierrasparky]

After further thought about the rating of the trims, I don't believe they affect the "can light." It is rated for damp locations regardless of the trim. If a shower trim is used then it bumps the can light up to wet location rated.

I don't think all recessed lights are damp rated. You will need to look at the specs for each housing/trim combination.

 

[Dennis Alwon]

I have never seen a halo can trim that wasn't rated damp location-- that means all the trims are rated damp location. Only a few trims are rated wet location.

 

[electricus]

So far I like using the HALO, they might cost a little more, but from what I've see so far, being IC and damp location rated makes them very versatile.

I don't think all recessed lights are damp rated. You will need to look at the specs for each housing/trim combination.

The model I'm using has a sticker on it "damp location", so far I've not see any rating for the trims I can use, this is what made me thing the trim doesn' t matter in this instance unless used for wet loation, then the correct trim for wet would be added to the can light to bring it to the wet rating.