Recessed Lights

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On a remodel job in the past if I had to install 4 inch recessed lights where the attic is covered with insulation I would always use new construction type recess can (doing all the wiring inside the attic), since there are no IC type 4 inch remodel type recessed cans that I know of. I have a job where I need to install 35 of them and I am kind of leaning towards using the non IC type remodel can and clear the insulation 3 inches away since there are so many of them. I would like to get your guys opinion on how you would do it.

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Jason.
 
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walkerj said:
There are 4" IC-rated cans. The have a box built around the can
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Not for remodeling. The OP is talking about retro fit 4" IC cans.

I would talk the HO into the 6" cans because they have them as retros and IC
 
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If there is an attic why use retro cans. I always use standard cans if there is an attic. I pull up the plywood if I have to. A PITA but a better job.
 
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It is a pretty tight attic space that is why I was leaning towards remodels I have not decided yet how about to do it. I am just trying to get your guys opinion.
Jason
 
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I always give them the option through pricing. If you let them know what a great price reduction it would be to use larger IC cans they will go for it or pay you alot more $ either way you win.
 
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stickboy1375 said:
Around here I'm sure you would be violating energy codes, you can't just remove installation... I'm quite sure they didn't install it for fun...;)
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:grin: Hey, I remove bad installations all the time. But you were talking about something else weren't you.:D
 
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Cutting all of those holes in a ceiling would likely violate a building energy code. Although they may be code compliant according to the NEC they probably are not compliant with the building code.
 
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As someone else already said, here in CA the cans must be both IC and AT cans, be high efficacy or on a dimmer, though your profile doesn't say where you're from.
 
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electricguy61 said:
I think it's asking for trouble to ever install non-ic rated cans in an insulated space. A fire isn't worth the gamble.

Customers don't always get what they want to pay for.
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I really don't think there is much of a fire risk in modern recessed lights even if covered in insulation when they should not be. The thermal cutout should eliminate that risk.
 
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