refrigerator and icemaker vs gfci
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bill addiss
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Re: refrigerator and icemaker vs gfci
There was a 6 foot rule for Kitchen sinks but that's changed and there is one for wet-bar sinks, but no language about being near water.
Bill
There was a 6 foot rule for Kitchen sinks but that's changed and there is one for wet-bar sinks, but no language about being near water.
Bill
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Re: refrigerator and icemaker vs gfci
Look at 210.8, 215.9, 527.6, 680.22, 680.23, 680.27, 680.43, 680.71, and of course talk to your AHJ prior to commencing any work.
Look at 210.8, 215.9, 527.6, 680.22, 680.23, 680.27, 680.43, 680.71, and of course talk to your AHJ prior to commencing any work.
pierre
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Re: refrigerator and icemaker vs gfci
GFCI requirements are well spelled out in the NEC. The NEC is the 'minimum' requirement, if you would like to go beyond the code it is permissible. The code changes somewhat
Pierre
GFCI requirements are well spelled out in the NEC. The NEC is the 'minimum' requirement, if you would like to go beyond the code it is permissible. The code changes somewhat
Pierre
Re: refrigerator and icemaker vs gfci
Although the NEC may not require all of the following be GFCI, I usually make any receptacle GFCI if it is within 6' of a sink, water closet, bathtub, etc. My reasoning is that a hairdryer or other device usually has a 6' or shorter cord, and objects like those are somewhat likely to get dropped into a sink or bathtub full of water. So I guess I am thinking of anything that holds enough water to dunk an electric appliance in. The dishwasher, ice maker and washer are much less likely to have a hair dryer dropped into.
Steve
Although the NEC may not require all of the following be GFCI, I usually make any receptacle GFCI if it is within 6' of a sink, water closet, bathtub, etc. My reasoning is that a hairdryer or other device usually has a 6' or shorter cord, and objects like those are somewhat likely to get dropped into a sink or bathtub full of water. So I guess I am thinking of anything that holds enough water to dunk an electric appliance in. The dishwasher, ice maker and washer are much less likely to have a hair dryer dropped into.
Steve
ryan_618
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Re: refrigerator and icemaker vs gfci
I think the two biggest mis-beliefs about the NEC are:
1) GFCI required within 6' of water
2) Two grounding electrodes always required
Neither one is true.
I think the two biggest mis-beliefs about the NEC are:
1) GFCI required within 6' of water
2) Two grounding electrodes always required
Neither one is true.
pierre
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Re: refrigerator and icemaker vs gfci
Maddog
My statement about the $60 spent to purchase a code book was not directed towards you, I apologize if I offended you . The comment should have been worded for the 'impersonal you' not you meaning you personally.
I still stand behind what I wrote, meaning that the code book(s) should be as much a part of the tools that a person in this industry, such as linemans pliers.
Pierre
Maddog
My statement about the $60 spent to purchase a code book was not directed towards you, I apologize if I offended you
. The comment should have been worded for the 'impersonal you' not you meaning you personally.I still stand behind what I wrote, meaning that the code book(s) should be as much a part of the tools that a person in this industry, such as linemans pliers.
Pierre
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I know it's not economically practical now but it would be helpful if the NEC was freely available on the web. Since it's a legal document it would be nice to be able to access freely.
I realize there would have to be some new & creative strategies to fund such a proposition and that it would take time & money to make it freely available. The Internet has made it more practical to distribute information, but there still has to be a way to support the underlying organization that authors it. Much like shareware or freeware-- there has to be an alternate source of revenue. Folks would still need to buy a hard copy for their rig.
Does the AHJ have to pay a fee if they choose to adopt the NEC?
../Wayne C.
[ October 23, 2003, 09:50 PM: Message edited by: awwt ]
I know it's not economically practical now but it would be helpful if the NEC was freely available on the web. Since it's a legal document it would be nice to be able to access freely.
I realize there would have to be some new & creative strategies to fund such a proposition and that it would take time & money to make it freely available. The Internet has made it more practical to distribute information, but there still has to be a way to support the underlying organization that authors it. Much like shareware or freeware-- there has to be an alternate source of revenue. Folks would still need to buy a hard copy for their rig.
Does the AHJ have to pay a fee if they choose to adopt the NEC?
../Wayne C.
[ October 23, 2003, 09:50 PM: Message edited by: awwt ]
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