Remote building sub feed

[nizak]

I went to look at a job today for the install of an inground pool. Customer has a 100A sub panel located in a garage and will have the pool equip about 20 ft away in a small pool house. Open the panel and find 3 wire installation, L1 L2 and a grounded(neutral ) 120/240V 1 phase. First words he says to me as we talk about the existing install is my buddy who's an electrical contractor told me that there just needs to be 2 grounds driven there and it's good to go. I realize there is an exception to an already existing install that says if there is no EGC present the neutral can be used for grounding equip, frames , etc. I'm unable to talk to the AHJ in this area to get his take on it. Customer is adament about not spending money to upgrade to a 4 wire system, but I have a feeling that the AHJ is not going to be comfortable with the existing set up. Thoughts on how to handle a situation like this? I'm of the mind set that an insulated EGC should be part of the system if a pool is part of the load being served. Thanks for any opinions. Not a simple fix, half of the feeder from the main panel is a 3 wire SE type cable running through the basement to a j box and then transition to CU in PVC U/G to the out building.

 

[jxofaltrds]

I went to look at a job today for the install of an inground pool. Customer has a 100A sub panel located in a garage and will have the pool equip about 20 ft away in a small pool house. Open the panel and find 3 wire installation, L1 L2 and a grounded(neutral ) 120/240V 1 phase. First words he says to me as we talk about the existing install is my buddy who's an electrical contractor told me that there just needs to be 2 grounds driven there and it's good to go. I realize there is an exception to an already existing install that says if there is no EGC present the neutral can be used for grounding equip, frames , etc. I'm unable to talk to the AHJ in this area to get his take on it. Customer is adament about not spending money to upgrade to a 4 wire system, but I have a feeling that the AHJ is not going to be comfortable with the existing set up. Thoughts on how to handle a situation like this? I'm of the mind set that an insulated EGC should be part of the system if a pool is part of the load being served. Thanks for any opinions. Not a simple fix, half of the feeder from the main panel is a 3 wire SE type cable running through the basement to a j box and then transition to CU in PVC U/G to the out building.

Only solution is to get the AHJ to see all the issues present. See what is grandfathered and what will be required to be new.

Buy two ground rods give them to your EC buddy and tell him to go fix someone else problem.

 

[stickboy1375]

I dont understand the issue? It's a legal install, why make more out of it? You cant force someone to spend money on something thats not broke based on an opinion.