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derf48

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Does anyone have list or access to one of the areas, states or local, that will only accept UL as the listing NRTL. I contacted UL and they claim to have no such knowledge, or do not keep a list. From what I have been able to collect so far, the states of Washington, Oregon, and Wisconsin, and the City of Chicago are UL only. Pleaqse correct me if I am wrong and add to that list if you have the info. This is important to companies that do business in multi states! Thank you,

Fred Bender
 

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derf48 said:
Does anyone have list or access to one of the areas, states or local, that will only accept UL as the listing NRTL. I contacted UL and they claim to have no such knowledge, or do not keep a list. From what I have been able to collect so far, the states of Washington, Oregon, and Wisconsin, and the City of Chicago are UL only. Pleaqse correct me if I am wrong and add to that list if you have the info. This is important to companies that do business in multi states! Thank you,

Fred Bender

The state of Wisconsin is UL only. WOW, am I suprised to learn that.

The only place in COMM 16 (the Wisconsin State electric code) that evens mentions UL by name is
"The department recognizes UL 69—Electric Fence Controllers as acceptable standards"

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The state of Washington has a list of acceptable NRTL's on their Dept. of Labor and Industries website (type in "Washington NRTL" in Google). Note that only those labs that have NRTL in the RHS column are NRTL's, and each has "Product Categories" that apply.
 
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Derf48

I would be very surprised to hear if what you posted is actually correct.
There are (at my last look on the OSHA website) 18 recognized NRTLs in the US. I am sure that most states/jurisdictions will approve most of them.

Maybe what you are mistaken about is not UL per se, but "UL STANDARDS", which are developed by UL, manufacturers and Ansi...maybe even other entities as well.
 

gwpowell

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The state inspectors in Kentucky require that industrial control panels be UL approved. I think this is because the inspectors are not all that familiar with some of the hardware in these panels (servo drives, VFD's, PLC's, etc.). We have recently started getting all of our panels built by a UL panel shop unless the customer signs-off that they are responsible for UL inspection and approval.
 

JohnHurst

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Not exactly what you were looking for, but there's a lot of "Buy American" type stuff that goes into government bids. We've run into that several times with our equipment that carries CSA certification (a concious decison because there is no UL equivalent to CSA B44.1 for Elevator Equipment). In at least one case, we were told unofficially that we had no chance of our bid winning because all we had was a "foreign" certification. Funny thing is, our bid one because we were the only one's that had B44.1...
 

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Fred (derf48),

Please let me know where you recieved, and what specific information you have regarding the states or jurisdictions that only will recognize UL listings.

I am working on a project that involves this kind of evidence. (not legal..)

Thanks,

-Larry
 

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derf48 said:
From what I have been able to collect so far, the states of Washington, Oregon, and Wisconsin, and the City of Chicago are UL only. Pleaqse correct me if I am wrong and add to that list if you have the info. This is important to companies that do business in multi states! Thank you,

Fred Bender

Oregon is not UL-only, unless you can source other information. I've used ETL, TUV, etc as NRTLs.
 
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